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Title: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: its_only_me on January 06, 2005, 03:59:11 PM
I´m writing in a hurry, correct my mistakes if I make any..
I´m a 16-year old girl and I´m white. I would love to have dreadlocks, but to me it only means hair that is easy to "use" and it´s so natural, I travel around a lot and I wouldn´t need to wash my hair so often and it would always look nice and I would´t have to worry about it.. so to me it´s only hair. I know the history and everything, I know that it means a lot to most people and now I´m afraid that I might be accused of ripping off black culture.. which is NOT my intention. and it got me thinking should I, or should I not? I know that no one  
who is white and has dreads means to offend or insult anyone, so what´s the deal? should I be afraid of getting beaten up the next time I go to america or england? or am I exaggerating?


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on th
Post by: Poetic_Princess on January 06, 2005, 06:49:29 PM
Blessings and Greetings its_only_me

Firstly one must say slow down, one can tell by your words you were really in a rush anywayz i catch your drift now onto answering you,
Then secondly one must say you dont have to get an "ok'' from a rastafarian community or even the site to locks your hair it should be your own choice one you know the facts and reasons behind you wanting to locks your hair and you being both physically and mentally able to handle the trials n tribualations that come with a white person have dreadlocks.

My dear firstly i can see you only want dreadlocks as a hairstyle am i right?
Having dreads and taking care of them properly does not mean you dont have to wash them because dreads should always be kept clean,fresh and smell nice.That is a very old myth that dreadlocks dont have to be washed as often as regular hair.
If you want dreadlocks so bad then why are you afraid of what people will say about you,If your intentions are good then by all means it is up to you to do it.But you do have one strong and good point Dreadlocks are the last strong hold our black african people has as our heritage and culture and truth be told you will get some snares and snickers because it would seems as if you're trying to rob us of everything,we and our ancestors have been rob of so much that many may even scorn you because you choose to wear dreadlocks.
I dont believe anyone would beat you up when you go to America and England but you must be prepared to get strange looks and stares from some black people.Others may not even notice or even say anything because to some dreadlocks has become such a popular hairstyle it may go unnoticed.

If you need any links on how to go about locking you hair il be willing to help you.Much Blessings


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on th
Post by: Africanprince on January 06, 2005, 09:00:49 PM
Get the dreads if you feel thats the best for ya.  


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on th
Post by: gman on January 07, 2005, 10:11:50 AM
I don't have much to add to Poetic_Princess's statement, but here's a lil 2 cents, coming from someone who has often poked fun at "honky dreads":
If your hair naturally locks up when you stop combing it, then you are naturally supposed to have what would be called "dreadlocks" although they will probably look different from African locks.
If your hair doesn't naturally lock up, then you shouldn't do anything to it, to make it lock up. That's artificial, and trying to be an imitator.
Ain't no one gone beat you up. Not physically anyway.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on th
Post by: gman on January 07, 2005, 10:17:05 AM
One thing I have noticed, is that most of the white people who associate with Rastafari, who I have any respect for, tend not to have "dreadlocks". They don't speak pseudo-patois either, unless they happened to grow up where patois/creolese/whatever is spoken.
Whatever you decide to do, make sure you are clear on the reasons why you are doing it, and on who you are. By even asking those questions, that shows you have thought about it more than the average "trustafarian" with "dreads" and a Bob Marley sticker next to the Jerry Garcia sticker on his/her van. Just live your life honestly from the heart and never imitate or perpetrate, no one respects an imitator. But you seem to be a respectable person as much as I could tell from one post.
Welcome to the boards.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on th
Post by: iNk on April 24, 2005, 03:57:48 AM
I know a lot of good people who overstand Rasta only because of their dreadlocks. So do it. And maybe you will get answers. =)


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on th
Post by: Zion.i.bless on May 16, 2005, 03:37:27 AM
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Blessings and Greetings its_only_me

Dreadlocks are the last strong hold our black african people has as our heritage and culture and truth be told you will get some snares and snickers because it would seems as if you're trying to rob us of everything


to I Bredren Locksin is like Antenna to pick up vibes.
But...
how is one white yout' Locksin' Up robbin' InI ancestors.

JAH is always dere zeen... JAH is Truth & JAH is InI Foundation.

None in Babylon can Box GOD & Conquer.

I see BLACK Dreads who aren't Rasta & I nah care. Dem have dey own beliefs. why would I care if I see a white dread who Nah Rasta.

I used to Blaze fiya pon dreads if dey nah Rasta... But Why? All I can do is tell dem da Roots of Locks & What It Mean to wear dem.

Longer i Trod JAH-ROAD i See Rasta Has no Shape or Form.
It Exists Itinually ForIver.

Blessed


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on th
Post by: Poetic_Princess on May 18, 2005, 09:12:29 PM
Blessings Brethren Zion.i.bless,

Hotep.

Brethren if you read my whole statement to her you would have overstand that I would just explaining to her what some ppl may think and say I wasn't giving that as my opionon i was giving the sistren advice, and if you read her post she herself said she knew it is a strong hold to black people so you must read it over again brethren and carefully.

Hotep Brethren


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: SoundbwoyLouie on October 26, 2005, 05:05:32 AM
If U Like Dreads, let it grow. I see Rasta with dreads and i see rasta without dreads. To be rasta is not a hairstyle!!! to be rasta comes from heart, comes from mind and soul. no matter if u black or white, u are a human, like all of us.
dont think to much
sistren
life in peace


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: natural blacks on October 29, 2005, 11:41:34 AM
Rasta have dem locks man...bun out bald head rasta and dem idea deh...a try water down rastafari.

Selassie I


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: afrikanrebel06 on June 07, 2006, 12:26:19 PM
 ::)  why are people entertaining the krakkkazoids,alliesn,the reptilians,dont understand,now i understand the diff between the one luv,flower power rastas, from true garveyites! flower power and one luv type will be embracing white rastas and  pan africanists and true garveytes will be dropping da machette on the one luv,flower power white rastas and one luv type all alike >:(
  ;D time to clean up da house!


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: melaninmagic on July 06, 2006, 09:57:41 PM
Greetings all,

This question goes out to all those in this forum who classify themselves as white (i.e. direct decendents of other Europeans) with respect to all those who have been classified as non-white (i.e. members of the African Diaspora):

Precisely what is your attraction to the rastafarian and consequentially, to the Pan African movement? Can you please elaborate on your motives? (preferably in point form).


Thank you.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: citizen on July 14, 2006, 12:54:02 AM
what is the attraction for some caucasians o rastafarianism?

before i begin, i would like to stress that no benevolent idealogyis a club. this is not a contest of who is more suppressed and white people are certainly not trying to deprive anyone of their culture. of course i can;'t speak for everyone, but here are my reasons.

1. rasta is the only system of beliefs that emphasizes, above all, love. even Chritianity, which makes that claim, is more concerned with other aspects of morality.

2. although rasta started as an african movement, its message of unity is one that we can all learn from. i agree, there is a gap between the races, but militancy willl only perpetuate it. any white rasta is inloved because he or she desires total unity.

3. the pan-african movement is actually one of growing interest. with world events starting to focus on africa, many more young people are becoming interested in its rich culture. i myself hope to live and work there someday for the benefit of whatever country will have me


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: ooggooles on July 17, 2006, 05:02:14 PM
Greetings. These are some questions and comments to Its_Only_Me and everyone else. Can some one who eats meat say that he is a vegaterian? Can someone who worships the Devil claim to be a fellower of God. Can a blackman that bleaches his skin claim to be proud to be black? If a man tek ah sex change is he a fool? If you give respect do you get respect? Why do som many people want to be what they are not?

The fact that you stated that "am I going to get beat up in America or England," would lead me to conclude that you already have some prejudicial beliefs about black people or at the very least peoples perception of dreads. What are you true intentions I do not know. What I know is when a Rastaman Grow him locks he doesn't ask question of acceptance. It is an inate, inborn devine conception of the sort that is a holy intervention upon the soul of a blackman.

 


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: citizen on July 19, 2006, 11:26:56 AM
why do people who say they want equality and fairness forcus on being seprate? having pride in identity and being unique is one thing, but exclusion of others in this is counterproductive.

but i do feel strongly that one should only try to be what one is, never what others desire. (ie i don't support being a poser)

saying that someone is trying to be something they're not seems not to take into account that a person is not just a body from one family or another, but an individual mind. if your heart is with something, far be it for you to let your appearance stop you from becoming who you really are



Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: melaninmagic on July 19, 2006, 01:04:24 PM
Citizen,

Can you highlight for me ONE SINGLE culture that has not moved foward as a culture without reflecting on its past achievements and its OWN history SEPERATELY AND WITHOUT THE OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE OR INFLUENCES of other foreign cultures?

I suspect that you will have a hard time doing this because as far as I am concerned, there isn't one. However if you think differently please let me know, as it will certainly give some most needed credibility to your concerns.

As far as cultures forming their own separate identities go, the whole of Asia did it, the Jews do it on a daily basis, Arabs do it, and Europeans have done it. Why is it that you and most other Europeans are of the opinion that Africans do not deserve this same courtesy? Is it just because technically, Africa is your Mother? ANY culture that does not recapture its history on it's own without someone else inputting their opinions or offering their unwanted and unnecessary 'assistance' is a DOOMED culture.

Why is it that at the slightest suspicion that the African Peoples are trying to rebuild their identity, EUROPEANS ESPECIALLY start making a fuss claiming that Africans are being anti-social and separatist? Then they go ahead sticking themselves in the middle of things claiming that they have just as much right to be here as anyone else. (this damn 'white privilege' is a real bitch, yo! for real!) Considering that it was YOU and YOUR ancestors that had Africa and her peoples in bondage for 500 years, don't you find this attitude on your part and on the part of most other Europeans at the very least, a little bit strange or at all selfish? Seriously, now!

I'd REALLY like to hear your comments on this.

Haven't you realized by now that out of the multitude of varing cultures that populate this planet, ONLY Europeans (Africas' previous conquerers) cry foul when they see that Africans just want to be left alone to rebuild themselves? Again, do you not find this a bit strange? Why is it so hard for you to just leave us be? Just because we generally don't say anything to you doesn't mean we don't want to enjoy the convenience of our solitude... have some consideration, for god's sake!

In so many ways Europeans remind me of a pre-adolescent child that starts throwing tantrums anytime their mother barely steps out of ear-shot, just because it can't continue nursing off of it's mother's milk.

It is high time that you Europeans grow the hell up and release your death grip on Africa and the African peoples, because if you do not, YOU WILL KILL US. Then you wonder why we would ever think you arn't commiting genocide on us. Go figure!

...and NO! It is most certainly NOT in your place to tell us that we are just 'seeing' things either. Only who feels it knows it!


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: natural blacks on July 19, 2006, 01:23:59 PM
equality and fairness has nothing to do with "let's all get together, jesus love" ... it has to do with letting go of what is not urs, being satisfied with what is, and having a sincere desire to see each person live out their identitiy as THEY see fit, without you (as an outsider) coming in to dictate and rearrange and "suggest" and whatever else the "good and just white people" do.

let black ppl live man...fix up ur own damn house! how can u go cleaning ur neighbours house when ur house if full of dirt and grime ...galang a yuh yaad and lef mi rasta!


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: ooggooles on July 21, 2006, 04:51:12 PM
Greetings.

I understand the poing that many are trying to make about inclusion and pride. Therefore why not share certain things.
Question.
If you have a beautiful wife would you let another man/anyone or anything slept with her? Could/should/would, you really critize a man for wanting to protect his wife?


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: citizen on July 26, 2006, 12:07:01 PM
to melaninmgic

i want you to know that i respect you alot, for your passion and yes i actually agree with many of you assertions, although i find them to be somewhat the extreme of my own opinions.

that said, i fully agree that no people can grow without roots. it is important that each person has cultural identity. it is simply my feeling that no one, not europeans, africans, hispanics, asians, etc should hold so much to that culture that they cruely and forcefully exclude others. i understand that you want more than peace, that you want justice, but i'm afraid that justice can only be achieved by acting justly, evaluating each person justly.

i am relating this to both your veiw of europeans as a group and of me personally.

for the record if i were to acknowledge africa as my "mother", which i do, as it is the irrefutable motherland of all people, i think you would consider that me trying to encroach upon a culture to which i am not entitled.

we as a world of differnt cultures should stop and look occasionally. in a cosmic scheme, the only difference between us is a chemical. the culture is something that we created. why them should we not share our own creation.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Brendan on June 22, 2007, 08:02:05 PM
I´m writing in a hurry, correct my mistakes if I make any..
I´m a 16-year old girl and I´m white. I would love to have dreadlocks, but to me it only means hair that is easy to "use" and it´s so natural, I travel around a lot and I wouldn´t need to wash my hair so often and it would always look nice and I would´t have to worry about it.. so to me it´s only hair. I know the history and everything, I know that it means a lot to most people and now I´m afraid that I might be accused of ripping off black culture.. which is NOT my intention. and it got me thinking should I, or should I not? I know that no one  
who is white and has dreads means to offend or insult anyone, so what´s the deal? should I be afraid of getting beaten up the next time I go to america or england? or am I exaggerating?

Its your hair do what you want with it and listen to no one else the first time I tried a "black hairstyle" I thought Ii would be ridiculed becasue I am white and sure I got some odd looks on the bus but in the long run most people liked it and if anyone tried to gimme trouble with it I said are you trying to tell me that I cannot have something ddue to the colour of my skin and that usually worked.(I belive that everyone has a right to everything including which ever hairstyle they want)


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Brendan on June 22, 2007, 08:11:56 PM
what is the attraction for some caucasians o rastafarianism?

before i begin, i would like to stress that no benevolent idealogyis a club. this is not a contest of who is more suppressed and white people are certainly not trying to deprive anyone of their culture. of course i can;'t speak for everyone, but here are my reasons.

1. rasta is the only system of beliefs that emphasizes, above all, love. even Chritianity, which makes that claim, is more concerned with other aspects of morality.

2. although rasta started as an african movement, its message of unity is one that we can all learn from. i agree, there is a gap between the races, but militancy willl only perpetuate it. any white rasta is inloved because he or she desires total unity.

3. the pan-african movement is actually one of growing interest. with world events starting to focus on africa, many more young people are becoming interested in its rich culture. i myself hope to live and work there someday for the benefit of whatever country will have me


well said but the main reason I am interested in rastafari is that it believes that all people are equal and we are not black race white race or brown race or blue race or orange race but human race.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Azania 7 on July 03, 2007, 04:18:31 PM
any human being is entitled to allow the hair to lock natural...
But y are people so determined to hold locks as a "black peoples style":
locks have been in existance for much time and have been linked especially to the spiritual, think Samson, even Yesua Christ (the previous are mentioned with no intention to argue about their race, only to highlight divinity). If one looks at Hinduism, even there the locks are a symbol of spirituality (Hindu god Shiva)

The message here is that colour is of no importance and shouldnt determine nature or connection with the Most High. But then again if one isn't grow locks 4 spiritual reasons, no crime is being commited there either.

...Nothing dreadful about my locks... :)


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Ben on July 06, 2007, 08:33:35 AM
As you say dreadlock arent fixed to a culture, celtic warriors had em so if your scottish like me you are sorted ;).

Why should we not be able to celebrate everybodys culture. celebrating your culture with someone of a different one i think is realy nice reminds us we are all just human not black or white or watever just people.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: luvthemessage on July 13, 2007, 03:14:18 AM
I´m writing in a hurry, correct my mistakes if I make any..
I´m a 16-year old girl and I´m white. I would love to have dreadlocks, but to me it only means hair that is easy to "use" and it´s so natural, I travel around a lot and I wouldn´t need to wash my hair so often and it would always look nice and I would´t have to worry about it.. so to me it´s only hair. I know the history and everything, I know that it means a lot to most people and now I´m afraid that I might be accused of ripping off black culture.. which is NOT my intention. and it got me thinking should I, or should I not? I know that no one  
who is white and has dreads means to offend or insult anyone, so what´s the deal? should I be afraid of getting beaten up the next time I go to america or england? or am I exaggerating?

I don't have locks, but I know people who do and I know a little bit. First off, locks do have to be washed, getting locks will not be an excuse not to wash your hair, it would still be in your  best interest to keep them clean. Others besides black where locks both presently and historically, so I wouldn't say you were necesarily ripping off the black culture. When I think of ripping off the black culture I think of exploiting us or our culture in some way and this doesnt really seem like exploitation to me. Unfortunately there may very well be some black people who see it differently. They may feel like your ripping off the black culture, but I think that attention is a consequence of wearing locks for any person of any race. Even blacks sometimes get a negative response from wearing locks because they are such a strong and powerful statement for who you are. However, I feel that we are slowly becoming desensitized to the affect, the power, the statement of locks because so many people are wearing them and not really knowing what they represent and history, particularly here in the U.S. They really mean something, but with the influx of hip-hop rap artist wearing them, it is becoming more of a fashion trend than a statement. I doubt though, that you will have to fear for your life over your locks, you may get some crazy looks (I myself sometimes do a double take seeing non-Africans with locks), but I don't think you will be in any physical danger. Though it is nice to have others opinions and it can help to give you insight, DO WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT. Locks are a huge responsibilty, and you should be sure that's what you want to do, but do it for YOU!! They will be on YOUR head :)


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Makini on July 17, 2007, 04:01:48 AM
Hmm, that message was sent 2 and a half years ago...and she never hurriedly replied.

Poetic Princess to this, what you had in mind, I'm interested.

'If you need any links on how to go about locking you hair il be willing to help you.Much Blessings'


-M-


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: IrishRastaman on July 17, 2007, 07:30:25 AM
Hey Makini,


I'm 17 from dublin and have recently switched to the rastafarian religon ....anyways i'm looking to start growing dreads and would love some help...my hair is still short but i just wanted to know what u think or any1 on here thinks.....if i could get some help that would be much appreciated


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Boogieman on July 17, 2007, 08:03:36 AM
IrishRastaman
I would think you should read some more on Rastafar I, about racism ,white privilege, white supremacy. Educate your mind and free it. Before saying that you a Rasta. Locks can only grow naturally. No help in that.
"Switched to the rastafarian religion". Switched from what? It's not underwear brand that you can switch with one swoop.
Most High. 


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: IrishRastaman on July 17, 2007, 08:10:11 AM
See living in Ireland it's hard to get information on this sort of stuff any ideas of how to help


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: IrishRastaman on July 17, 2007, 11:45:14 AM
Can some one put up some link so i can get more info into the Rasta way of life


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Makini on July 17, 2007, 08:42:40 PM
Padnazz, I have mi on stories to handle here. I say its good to float. Follow the vibe. Is good that at 17 you are searching. I think I must have started some directed search for something last year. I am 22 now.

I don't have ras. I have no inclination to be Rastafari, I don't read up on it, but I like what Ras Marcus defined a rastafari as 'A Rastafari person is a Black Power person who stands up for the rights of African people everywhere.'  I wear my hair as cork screw or in plaits or sometimes out like Diana Ross(of all people, but you get me). And the one 'lock' I had just left to be for 3 months a fren was cane-rowing my hair and say 'eww what is that, I combing this out' and that was that. I think I can find some site online relating to locking your hair, but Poetic Princess offered, so I bit. And I asked casually not to grow my own hair but to twist my dad's hair for him and help him in his personal choice, not a choice of mine.

All I can say as Boogieman said is read, read, read. And there is so very much to read right here, so it sounds kind of silly for you to ask that when all around in the series of connected sites here there is so much to read. Well interaction is good and discussions too, because you can learn a lot from people, they have a lot to offer whether they are welcoming or offensive. But having people feed you information is not so wise and is not so good for you. Perhaps you will see what I mean in a nice lesson.

And 'Can some one put up some link so I can...' that makes you sound more like 7. And I would if I had a nice link in mind deliberately ignore you as I suspect many may be doing now.


-M-


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: IrishRastaman on July 18, 2007, 04:03:53 AM
And 'Can some one put up some link so I can...' that makes you sound more like 7. And I would if I had a nice link in mind deliberately ignore you as I suspect many may be doing now.

why would people ignore me i'm just trying to find some more info


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Makini on July 18, 2007, 06:49:51 AM
couldn't resist myself

after saying you sound more like 7, this 'why would people ignore me i'm just trying to find some more info' was your 7th post or rather it was the number of posts next to your name when I saw it last...

but good things follow the '7', interpretate as you wish.


-M-


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: IrishRastaman on July 18, 2007, 08:14:06 AM
i hope i dont offend any1 by saying I am a Rastafarian i'm still reading up on it as much as i can....


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: siger on July 18, 2007, 05:44:17 PM
i raise a glass to Makini...

the english one would say, "spot on!"


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Makini on July 18, 2007, 11:36:05 PM
i really REALLY can't resist myself

i come to read the new post up by Siger and see that this is the 3777th time someone (my click being the 3777th click, not person) has checked the post out...perhaps the lucks not on you Irishman, but on I...

but i think i more like your attitude now, this demanding business not cutting it. you are not so conscious of it and that is really all fine.

You say: 'i hope i dont offend any1 by saying I am a Rastafarian i'm still reading up on it as much as i can....' and if people (i being one of the last persons that would offer up my view on such since I am not Rastafarian) are offended, whats next?

-M-


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Makini on July 19, 2007, 04:25:31 AM
hmmm, a couple things

a clash of mine, not deliberate in any way...I referred to IrishRastaman as Irishman. may seem as i was 'selling' out my position, but hey, really it has a ring to it 'Irishman'. there was nothing deeper than that when i typed the word.

and on that note, siger says 'the english'... i'm being petty? its 4am, so i will let go. perhaps i alone caught that or i am looking for company.

and i was thinking siger, i think you can do better, much much better...'the english one would say, "spot on!" allow me to be so open as to say i rather hear what the african one would say. i mean, you hail from kampala horse, what would you say...say something akin to you. here i might say 'fuh true', 'yuh damned straight'...get my drift. who will raise us up but us.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: siger on July 19, 2007, 09:18:02 AM
na' hurura....

-how's that!!!! :P


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Makini on July 19, 2007, 09:07:22 PM
:)

ha, you have to tell me in what language though but poa...


-M-


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: chuff1026 on October 19, 2007, 02:21:34 PM
I´m writing in a hurry, correct my mistakes if I make any..
I´m a 16-year old girl and I´m white. I would love to have dreadlocks, but to me it only means hair that is easy to "use" and it´s so natural, I travel around a lot and I wouldn´t need to wash my hair so often and it would always look nice and I would´t have to worry about it.. so to me it´s only hair. I know the history and everything, I know that it means a lot to most people and now I´m afraid that I might be accused of ripping off black culture.. which is NOT my intention. and it got me thinking should I, or should I not? I know that no one 
who is white and has dreads means to offend or insult anyone, so what´s the deal? should I be afraid of getting beaten up the next time I go to america or england? or am I exaggerating?

get them


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Killuminati33 on October 23, 2007, 07:28:36 PM
::)  why are people entertaining the krakkkazoids,alliesn,the reptilians,dont understand,now i understand the diff between the one luv,flower power rastas, from true garveyites! flower power and one luv type will be embracing white rastas and  pan africanists and true garveytes will be dropping da machette on the one luv,flower power white rastas and one luv type all alike >:(
  ;D time to clean up da house!

Typical answer from someone like this.  [smiley=2thumbsup.gif]


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Killuminati33 on October 23, 2007, 07:48:05 PM
Citizen,

Can you highlight for me ONE SINGLE culture that has not moved foward as a culture without reflecting on its past achievements and its OWN history SEPERATELY AND WITHOUT THE OUTSIDE INTERFERENCE OR INFLUENCES of other foreign cultures?

I suspect that you will have a hard time doing this because as far as I am concerned, there isn't one. However if you think differently please let me know, as it will certainly give some most needed credibility to your concerns.

As far as cultures forming their own separate identities go, the whole of Asia did it, the Jews do it on a daily basis, Arabs do it, and Europeans have done it. Why is it that you and most other Europeans are of the opinion that Africans do not deserve this same courtesy? Is it just because technically, Africa is your Mother? ANY culture that does not recapture its history on it's own without someone else inputting their opinions or offering their unwanted and unnecessary 'assistance' is a DOOMED culture.

Why is it that at the slightest suspicion that the African Peoples are trying to rebuild their identity, EUROPEANS ESPECIALLY start making a fuss claiming that Africans are being anti-social and separatist? Then they go ahead sticking themselves in the middle of things claiming that they have just as much right to be here as anyone else. (this damn 'white privilege' is a real bitch, yo! for real!) Considering that it was YOU and YOUR ancestors that had Africa and her peoples in bondage for 500 years, don't you find this attitude on your part and on the part of most other Europeans at the very least, a little bit strange or at all selfish? Seriously, now!

I'd REALLY like to hear your comments on this.

Haven't you realized by now that out of the multitude of varing cultures that populate this planet, ONLY Europeans (Africas' previous conquerers) cry foul when they see that Africans just want to be left alone to rebuild themselves? Again, do you not find this a bit strange? Why is it so hard for you to just leave us be? Just because we generally don't say anything to you doesn't mean we don't want to enjoy the convenience of our solitude... have some consideration, for god's sake!

In so many ways Europeans remind me of a pre-adolescent child that starts throwing tantrums anytime their mother barely steps out of ear-shot, just because it can't continue nursing off of it's mother's milk.

It is high time that you Europeans grow the hell up and release your death grip on Africa and the African peoples, because if you do not, YOU WILL KILL US. Then you wonder why we would ever think you arn't commiting genocide on us. Go figure!

...and NO! It is most certainly NOT in your place to tell us that we are just 'seeing' things either. Only who feels it knows it!



Isn't this a bit off topic? I thought the subject was about a 16 year old white girl getting dread locks? Why do you have to rant on about Europeans? Is this the right thread to post things like this? Why not make your own thread to let out your frustrations on this instead of changing the subject of other threads? I know you must feel pationaltly about your beliefs and I admit you are probably right.

At this point I think its impossible for whites to leave Africa alone. In our day Africa itself is ridden with disease,ethnic war,religious war and rebel clashes. How did it get this way? Was it because of White involvement with divide and conquer tactics? Quiet possible. But I do not think it is entirely the white mans fault for the way Africa is today, White people have left Africa for the most part and there are few Europeans remaining in Africa. With no overt White control over all of Africa, shouldn't Africans start making peace with each other? Why is Africa ridden with war and conflict. Kids in Liberia who boast about killing there enemies then eating there Heart. You people say how we are so sick and immoral? It does not matter we are all human and we all have the same capacity for good and evil. When one has a greater capacity for good or evil such as with large empires,technology or anything else it is obviously going to be more prevalent throughout the world.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Still_an_Empress on October 24, 2007, 07:57:16 AM

When was the last time you been to africa?
So whose fault is it for Africa's current status?



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I do not think it is entirely the white mans fault for the way Africa is today, White people have left Africa for the most part and there are few Europeans remaining in Africa. With no overt White control over all of Africa, shouldn't Africans start making peace with each other? Why is Africa ridden with war and conflict. Kids in Liberia who boast about killing there enemies then eating there Heart. You people say how we are so sick and immoral? It does not matter we are all human and we all have the same capacity for good and evil. When one has a greater capacity for good or evil such as with large empires,technology or anything else it is obviously going to be more prevalent throughout the world.
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Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: indigo_mama on November 30, 2007, 04:37:52 AM
I´m writing in a hurry, correct my mistakes if I make any..
I´m a 16-year old girl and I´m white. I would love to have dreadlocks, but to me it only means hair that is easy to "use" and it´s so natural, I travel around a lot and I wouldn´t need to wash my hair so often and it would always look nice and I would´t have to worry about it.. so to me it´s only hair. I know the history and everything, I know that it means a lot to most people and now I´m afraid that I might be accused of ripping off black culture.. which is NOT my intention. and it got me thinking should I, or should I not? I know that no one 
who is white and has dreads means to offend or insult anyone, so what´s the deal? should I be afraid of getting beaten up the next time I go to america or england? or am I exaggerating?


historically, and i do not mean to incite any replies referencing the common ancestry of all mankind, dreadlocked hair is not unique to rastafarians, as dreads existed long before the professed deity of selassie, neither are they only customary for blacks. hair that was not brushed, locked up. it is natural for all mankind. do not interfere with nature and do any crazy backcombing or 'dread perming' just let your hair live without assault of a brush and comb, just the loving care of your hands, and it will be as whoever you believe tobe your creator intended it to be, and most likely dreadlocked.


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: I MAN on February 14, 2008, 03:41:09 PM
Greetings all,

This question goes out to all those in this forum who classify themselves as white (i.e. direct decendents of other Europeans) with respect to all those who have been classified as non-white (i.e. members of the African Diaspora):

Precisely what is your attraction to the rastafarian and consequentially, to the Pan African movement? Can you please elaborate on your motives? (preferably in point form).


Thank you.

Fiyah burn the one demanding answers from others, as opposed to trod I path.
I and I sense bigotry and oppression in your post..



Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: Zhindzi on March 10, 2008, 06:21:29 PM
Greetings all,

This question goes out to all those in this forum who classify themselves as white (i.e. direct decendents of other Europeans) with respect to all those who have been classified as non-white (i.e. members of the African Diaspora):

Precisely what is your attraction to the rastafarian and consequentially, to the Pan African movement? Can you please elaborate on your motives? (preferably in point form).


Thank you.

If you want to uphold the system by way of division then yes you can say i am white
Like all those with higher overstanding of the system that is made to destroy us i am willing to fight.
With this kind of knowledge you have to be on the side of good or evil.
To be on the side of the Most High is to defend Africa


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: nomo8 on April 05, 2008, 12:39:22 AM
Isn't this the "Africa Speaks" reasoning forum and this particular section is dedicated to young people of African origin exploring culture and history?  And now some ghosts from the machine have drawn in a flurry of posts bogging down the site with a discussion on a white girl (or other identity) who claims to want frizzy hair and to smoke weed, maybe hang with some buffed rastah man even!

Normally I wouldn't ever contribute to this part of the site, not appropriate! and I've retreated in respect a number of times over the years from speaking at all here., These posts are drearily familiar as work of the usual suspects in sidetracking , stultifying and ambushing a good thing with a lot of noise.  Now it seems contaminated with a bunch of white wittiness and condecension so that young african americans might feel bummed out or even intimidated to post here with something relevent.

Look at how many views this subject got!  In the intelligence game its called fly paper. some white smart ass like me with a lot of snooty prose and sarcastic wit can bulldoze the site leaving white wreckage all over the place - see, I am doing it right now and don't realize it - Hands off!

I thought of a few things I could say about why I read and post here - expanding over 30 years of related scholarship, expanded consciousness, revealing certain things that only a few white people know, of possible interest to readership here in contributing to understanding that other whites may be loathe to express - but some of that sounds again like whitey interferous/interruptus/ patronizicus/hair shirticus. 

The main underlying reason I post here is in emergency "situations" in matters of life and death.  Not necessarily on the broad scale either.  The writer is also motivated by an unhealthy desire for revenge, having genetic predisposition for battle that sometimes overwhelmes good sense. I try my best to be specific in my posts that other scholars and such will be interested, occasionaly venturing a bombastic opinion or two.  There's a strategy in it all, I admit, again, its about life and death, literally.   Much of what I write is meant to bring trouble and uncomfortable thoughts to the usual suspects that are reading this site daily, attempt to dilute the agenda they have MASS MURDER.  There has been success and failure in this regard.  apologies 

Every white person has a cointelpro /security bubble around them.  Trilliions of dollars are at stake, if they can use you, they will, regardless of intent (including mine) so it is always good to avoid crackazoids, etc, when in any doubt, who want to take up your limited time for cultural and historical exploration with taunts and platitudes about frizzy hair styles and rationalizing socially accepted weed smoking.

How many of these goof balls (if they really existed) would actually saunter into a "black community" - hi! bro, I a Irish rastafarian (smoking weed highly illegal here mon!) I be interested most high (as in high on weed)in your RELIGION , mon, yah, (I know, my dialect is way off here) and I know a white girl most high all the time too who is into Ja and ethiopia, we can't wait to go there and - ............  I seriously doubt most of these posts are legit from the flower power rastah perspectives . 

Just ignore every single post that is by a "white rastah" who wants to be a "rastafarian"   Or how about a separate category on the site "white rastah hairstyling, some dos and donts".  N8 ???


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: afrikanrebel06 on March 29, 2009, 10:03:51 PM
 ::) why dont they create white rasta page or site lol, them parasites like to suck and steal our culture, theya re like leechs!


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: SimeonLevi on May 16, 2009, 08:06:51 AM
::) why dont they create white rasta page or site lol,

PositivelyForward


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: gman on May 16, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
Or an almost-white-skinned mixed-race Brazilian conspiracy theorist site!
(not disagreeing with ya about all the white 'rastas' most of whom I find quite annoying myself, but @ Afrikanrebel... do you even realise how ridiculous you sometimes seem? I say 'sometimes' cos there are times when you make sense, but it's almost always mixed with nonsense. I guess we gon have to do like Sister Carol and "pick out sense from outta nonsense, and put it inna one good sentence" ;D


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: realityproof on July 14, 2009, 06:17:17 PM
::) why dont they create white rasta page or site lol, them parasites like to suck and steal our culture, theya re like leechs!
Im a white guy with dreadlocks and im moving to live in cape town sa. i was online just looking wether i would get any bad reactions especially as im going to be spending some time in central jo'burg,and i came upon this post and was pretty shocked to be fair.....
I couldn't believe that my dreads would be offensive in any way i dont claim to be an expert on the subject but contrary to popular belief dreads arent only the heritage of rastafarians as rastafarianisim has only been around since the 1920s when marcus garvey started the movement. Dreadlocks are and have been worn for many hundreds of years by whites and blacks and all people inbetween i dont have dreads to look black any more than every black person wears them because they are rastafarian..............dont get me wrong i love my reggae but i got them because i feel a strange undescribable affinity for them and they are part of who i am.
(btw just a thought, I am i believe an unbaised and non-racist person and i honestly wonder why in the world in which we live is still so segregated by something as trivial as skin tone....... at the end of the day we are all here we all have to live on this little ball whether we're white, black, yellow, brown, gay, straight, ugly, pretty or anything else that people are unfairly judged by.)


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: EmpresKeneilwe on July 16, 2009, 11:14:09 AM
Well, things arent that simple. Like it or not, we are a colour conscience society. That is the reality we have to live and deal with. Here in SA, you will be welcome as ppl LOVE to have as many yt friends as they possibly can. There is no such thing as 'multi culturism'. You are forced to be eurocentric or you become an outkast. Yt ppl still dictate how we shud behave in order to survive in this system. Blaknes onenes n strength


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: SistaOracle on August 07, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
 >:( HeH now children, wake up and act your ages and not as my dear grandmother used to say, your shoe sizes. Those of you who read bible, koran or what ever plz tell me were it said "and he gave a comb and brush"......None found good. I'm a fort-eight year old woman and I've never heard such rubbish spouted before in my life, it's good to know that people of EVERY COLOUR, will like to adhere to the non-advertised look of the corporate fashion magnets. and yes I wear my hair locked (there is nothing dread about it) and shock horror not by any means rasta, not that ther is anything wrong with it in my opinion salvation is found in many forms. Youth men and women, get into the real ideologue of liberation for ALL, be exchange of intelligent debate, instead of this one up-manship that going. I worry cause your the people who have to carry the baton into the future whether you are BLACK or WHITE


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: EmpresKeneilwe on August 13, 2009, 02:56:48 AM
humble Greetings,
Youth men and women, get into the real ideologue of liberation for ALL, be exchange of intelligent debate, instead of this one up-manship that going. I worry cause your the people who have to carry the baton into the future whether you are BLACK or WHITE

This can only happen once we all take the responsibility of reasoning about how white priviledge affects each and every one of us. BLACK, YT, INDIAN, CHINESE...all of us.

If we as the human race, cannot debate on that, then our children will be worse off. We need to cure the source, and not just the symptom. At the rate most bredrens and sistrens are going on...encouraging this one nation theme, we'll end up having no culture and tradition at all. At the end of the day, we'll still be stuck with this one-sided-racist system.

People, I plead with you all. Let's not be afraid of this topic (monster) - White priviledge.
It is our responsibility as the human race to get rid of it. But it will not disappear if we just keep emphasizing "the color-blind" society concept.

Clearly we have moved away from the original topic - "a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?"

I shall stop rambling here.

Hotep
Keneilwe


Title: Re: a white girl with dreadlocks..? comments on that?
Post by: SistaOracle on August 13, 2009, 05:50:52 PM
Kaboh Keneilwe, i do not disagree with you about white privilege in no shape or form, after all if you had read my message I mention the 'corporations'. As far as i know and the research i have done so far no Person of Colour owns such an entity. It is these very entities that hold and perpetuate white privilegde globally in all corners of the so called Third World, wher People of Colour reside the very keepers of the earth. They rape and pillage resources and bring the benefit in the form of money to the west. This is how white priviledge is playing out my friend and for those of us Africans who live in the west, we have to wake up to the fact that just by our being her we benefit as well. If you will like to discuss this futher i am willing to debate this with you seperately.
Mabinty