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Title: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: AS Reasoning on January 15, 2010, 05:39:14 AM
Rare Earthquake Hits Haiti (

Haitian Earthquake Disaster: Made in the USA ( by Ted Rall
As grim accounts of the earthquake in Haiti came in, the accounts in U.S.-controlled state media all carried the same descriptive sentence: "Haiti is the poorest country in the Western hemisphere..." Gee, I wonder how that happened? You'd think Haiti would be loaded. After all, it made a lot of people rich.

Catastrophe in Haiti ( by Ashley Smith
"The media coverage of the earthquake is marked by an almost complete divorce of the disaster from the social and political history of Haiti," Haiti solidarity activist Yves Engler said in an interview. "They repeatedly state that the government was completely unprepared to deal with the crisis. This is true. But they left out why."

Our Role in Haiti's Plight ( by Peter Hallward
Any large city in the world would have suffered extensive damage from an earthquake on the scale of the one that ravaged Haiti's capital city on Tuesday afternoon, but it's no accident that so much of Port-au-Prince now looks like a war zone.

Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: Horus on January 16, 2010, 07:23:18 AM
“is it me or am I the only one that thinks something is not right about this earth quake?”.In case of "Natural" disaster usualy the animals all time react Before the event, by example dogs are barking but by the messages that I read on social networks coming from Haitians witness on the internet there was no warning and the animals didnt react before the event. This is very unusual.

Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: seshatasefekht7 on January 16, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
peace and hotep,

Horus. (

Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: seshatasefekht7 on January 16, 2010, 01:46:46 PM
"I mean, the colonial narrative is that Haiti is so poor, its a beggar country, and it doesn't have any resources that possibly Canada and these Canadian companies could want to go into Haiti and excavate for. So that's why programs like yours are so important.

Because we get to tell the world that Haiti has gold. As a matter of fact, you know, there was an article that talked about Haiti is littered with gold. That Haiti has copper.

That Haiti has silver.

That Haiti has all these various oil sites.

That behind the UN gun, something is happening. " (

Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: Horus on January 16, 2010, 03:54:19 PM
Truth TV World News-U.S. Government used H.A.A.R.P. to create Haiti 7.0 earthquake (
U.S Government used H.A.A.R.P. to create Haiti 7.0 earthquake

Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: seshatasefekht7 on January 16, 2010, 05:33:24 PM
peace and hotep,


how would/could  U.S Government used H.A.A.R.P. to create Haiti 7.0 earthquake?

the video does not show this.

the mining of 'precious' minerals in certain areas  is self-evident:

TORONTO, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - Jan. 15, 2010) - Individuals and corporations in the mining industry raised over $900,000 for Haiti relief at the 22nd annual induction dinner of the Canadian Mining Hall of Fame in Toronto last night, January 14, 2010.

The spontaneous reaction to the devastation in Haiti was overseen by the evening's Master of Ceremonies, Pierre Lassonde, Chairman of Franco-Nevada Corporation. (

Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: Horus on January 18, 2010, 08:48:54 AM
peace and hotep,


how would/could  U.S Government used H.A.A.R.P. to create Haiti 7.0 earthquake?

Earthquake TEST Goes Horribly Wrong!
(Possibly 500,000 Dead in Haiti)

Thu, 01/14/2010 - 9:25pm.

A grim report prepared by the Russian Northern Fleet for Prime Minister Putin is stating today that the catastrophic earthquake that has devastated the Island of Haiti was the ‘clear result’ of a United States Navy test of one of its ‘earthquake weapons’ planned to be used by the Americans upon the Persian Nation of Iran but had gone ‘horribly wrong’.

The Northern Fleet has been monitoring US Naval movements and activities in the Caribbean since 2008 when the Americans announced their intention to re-establish their Forth Fleet that had been disbanded in 1950, and which was responded to by the Motherland when later that year a Russian flotilla led by  nuclear powered cruiser Peter the Great began their first exercises in this region since the ending of the Cold War.   

Though virtually unknown to the American people, the use, and perfection, of earthquake weapon technology has a decade’s long history that began with the former Soviet Unions exploding of a 10 megaton nuclear bomb in September, 1978 and then ‘redirecting’ its shockwave towards Iran where it resulted in a catastrophic 7.4 magnitude earthquake, an event which hastened the downfall of the US backed regime headed by the Shah.

This attack upon Iran by the Soviets was countered by the Americans in April, 1979 when they unleashed one of their newly developed ‘atomic powered’ earthquake weapons against the former communist Nation of Yugoslavia which resulted in a 7.2 magnitude earthquake.

Since the late 1970’s, the United States has ‘greatly advanced’ the state of its earthquake weapons and, according to these reports, now employees devices employing a Tesla Electromagnetic Pulse, Plasma and Sonic technology, along with ‘shockwave bombs’ they have previously been accused by Russia of employing in their war against the Afghan peoples when one of these ‘devices’ was exploded in Afghanistan in March, 2002 triggering a devastating 7.2 magnitude earthquake.

Interesting to note in these reports are their stating that the earthquake weapons test conducted by the US Navy this week in the Caribbean that destroyed Haiti was ‘most probably’ based upon the same type of Tesla technology held responsible for the catastrophic January17, 1995, 6.8 magnitude earthquake that laid to waste the Japanese city of Kobe, and which the mysterious Aum Shinrikyo cult had warned 9 days prior was going to occur, and as we can read:

“Aum’s charismatic guru, Shoko Asahara, predicted the Kobe quake nine days before the event.  In an 8 January 1995 radio broadcast, Asahara stated “Japan will be attacked by an earthquake in 1995.  The most likely place is Kobe.”  Hideo Murai, the late Science and Technology minister for Aum Shinrikyo also adhered to this view.  Murai - said to have been the most intelligent Japanese who ever lived - was murdered in a Yakuza orchestrated assassination shortly after speaking on the record to foreign news correspondents. 

“Murai presented his allegation in an April 7 1995 news conference at the Foreign Correspondent Club in Japan.  In answer to questions about the Kobe quake, Murai said “There is a strong possibility of the activation of an earthquake using electromagnetic power, or somebody may have used a device that applied force inside the Earth.”  The Aum leadership believed the Kobe quake an act of war: “The City of Kobe was hit by a surprise attack…” they claimed, adding the City was an “…appropriate guinea pig.”     

Note: The Aum Shinrikyo religious order was destroyed shortly after their releasing of this information to the public when blamed for the March 20, 1995 sarin gas attack upon the Tokyo subway system which resulted in 11 of their members, including their leader, being sentenced to death. FSB reports on Aum Shinrikyo further state that their knowledge of the planned use of these ‘doomsday’ devices was gained from the US computer hackers belonging to the Branch Davidian religious order who had penetrated some of the American defense establishments most secret files and resulted in their, likewise, being completely destroyed in what is now known as the Waco Siege ordered by then US District Attorney, and currently Obama’s  US Attorney General, Eric Holder.   

The Tesla weapons being developed by the United States are based upon the research of Nikola Tesla who was an inventor and a mechanical and electrical engineer. He was one of the most important contributors to the birth of commercial electricity and is best known for his many revolutionary developments in the field of electromagnetism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Tesla's patents and theoretical work formed the basis of modern alternating current (AC) electric power systems, including the polyphase system of electrical distribution and the AC motor, with which he helped usher in the Second Industrial Revolution. Tesla is also credited as the inventor of modern radio by the US Supreme Court.

To Tesla’s earthquake weapons research conducted in the early 20th century we can further read:

“He put his little vibrator in his coat-pocket and went out to hunt a half-erected steel building. Down in the Wall Street district, he found one; ten stories of steel framework without a brick or a stone laid around it. He clamped the vibrator to one of the beams, and fussed with the adjustment until he got it.

Tesla said finally the structure began to creak and weave and the steel-workers came to the ground panic-stricken, believing that there had been an earthquake. Police were called out. Tesla put the vibrator in his pocket and went away. Ten minutes more and he could have laid the building in the street. And, with the same vibrator he could have dropped the Brooklyn Bridge into the East River in less than an hour.

Tesla claimed the device, properly modified, could be used to map underground deposits of oil. A vibration sent through the earth returns an “echo signature” using the same principle as sonar. This idea was actually adapted for use by the petroleum industry, and is used today in a modified form with devices used to locate objects at archaeological digs.”

Important to note at this point are that modern day experiments seeking to discredit Tesla’s earthquake weapons technology have been directed against structures designed to withstand the effects of earthquakes, buildings which in the early 20th century, like those in Haiti today, were not built to withstand such resonance. A most critical difference when viewed in the light of the US Navy’s testing of 2 of these earthquake weapons this past week and where in their Pacific test it resulted in a 6.5 magnitude earthquake hitting the area around the Northern California city of Eureka causing no deaths, their Caribbean test has caused an estimated 500,000 innocents to die.

Equally important to note are these reports stating that ‘more than likely’ the US Navy had ‘full knowledge’ of the catastrophic damage this earthquake weapons test could potentially have upon Haiti and had pre-positioned their Deputy Commander of their Southern Command, General P.K. Keen, on the island to oversee relief efforts if needed.

To the end result of these weapons being tested by the United States, these reports warn, are for the Americans planned destruction of Iran through a series of catastrophic earthquakes designed to bring down their present Islamic regime.

Most unfortunately in all of these events are the peoples of Haiti, who are suffering under conditions so horrible, that even in the best of scenarios, their functioning as a viable Nation has completely come to an end, and for reasons and purposes they have no comprehension of at all as they have become just the latest victim in the New Great Game that will decide the winners and losers of this 21st Century.

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Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: nomo8 on January 29, 2010, 07:29:55 PM
Well, we've had Christmas quakes striking those awful heathens in south east asia, now we have a MLK holiday quake for Haiti. When you add all the coincidences together regarding earthquakes of the last 10 years or so devastating only regions that are objects of imperial reach, it is probably worth it to look at it statistically.  Tha'ts a lot of data there, but grind it through a function and what comes out the other side might give some clues to the issue of artificially induced natural disasters.  There is no question regarding the research and successful experiments toward this end carried out, typically, by my country, England ("new zealand") and Russia, at least those three.  This is what Leonid Brezhnev warned of decades ago during the detent days vis a vis Soviets and the "WEST", playing god or gods with new weapons of an elctro magnetic nature (HAARP). There is a restrictive treaty on research of such weapons cited recently on the inet by a french researcher, but of course, treaties are as good as used toilet paper in water.  Just ask the equally mass tortured Native Americans. See, they fought back too and instead of being totally exterminated and or racially and culturally assimilated by force, they managed a highly imperfect and indeed unjust peace with settlement land of their own.   They too must be made examples of. 

The late Frank Herbert wrote an interesting short novel on the subject of electromagnetic pulse weapons causing earthquakes and volcanic eruptions just before his death entitled "Hellstrom's Hive".

There's a lot of talk about Haiti being destroyed for natural resource extraction/invasion.  Yet, one may also suspect this is a form of "piling it on" your diaspora (the primary goal in fact).  A disciplinary hell on earth.  "They" don't need Haiti's natural resources as much as they need to destroy this icon in an age of awakening.  Just as a famous singer was destoyed for the same reason recently.  Just as the cradle of civillization is now being destroyed and its artifacts pilfered for the same reason. 

Maybe that sounds a little glib in relation to the human suffering in Haiti AFrica and middle east. I used to know a few Haitians in the building trades in California.  I remember the bulldozers in Florida on the beaches scooping up dead Haitain "boat people" who had drowned, dumped in mass graves  .  I remember the bullshit about Haitians being "carriers of aids" and should be prevented from immigrating on that basis.  I knew a Haitaian structural engineer who worked as a yard man for a concrete and building materials company that was one of my main suppliers in California in the 80's.  I remember how some of the Haitians in the area drove around in their car with haitian flags draped all over it (in a rich white suburb no less Marin County)after the dispicable treatment of their brothers and sisters who had died on the beaches in florida.

If anyone should be consedered worthy to emigrate to the US or Africa under duress (paid for with British & French money) it is the descendants of the Maaffa (sp?) in the Carribbean()and especially Haitains, who are routinely punished and thumbed under for daring to succeed.....they won the initial fight against all odds, but the proverbial foot is still on their collective necks. 

What a goulish scenario, Bill Clinton and George Katrina Bush as front men for my country's "relief" efforts. Is anyone not clear concerning the reaction of the disaster victims at seeing these two men glaring at them while the Marines Invade?  It is to induce fear and feeling of helplessness, what we call in some circles "IN YOUR FACE".   Recognizing the "piling it on" scenario, we accept the reality of it without fear, perhaps, and the honorable Cynthia McKinney is right to point out the proper direct action to protect, defend and invigorate the Haitains so they can take charge of their destiny without fear of future mass torture.   I'd sure rather have polite, warm hearted, talented Hatians immigrating here than a bunch of East European crusader/ zionists or their compatriots in south africa who seem to be flooding into america, pacific region, basically anywhere that is not where they come from, they make so many friends (not). 

Haitian emergency immigration plan:  INS and freinds sweep up every European illegal alien or visa violators in the USA (millions of them in truth) to make room for some Haitians.  I may be considered a foe of the RCC but not an implacable one, maybe they could try something completely different , step to the side and look at it fresh, think about what Mickinney has said, no strings attached.  They've got plenty of cash and assets.  And they are  just as responsible for the punishment of the Haitian and American republics these many years as any of the other usual suspects.  .WEll, let's forget about that recriminatory stuff right now and move toward Mickinney on this.  A glass of water and some good food that keeps coming as result of local effort and infrastructure development are more uplifiting at times than rightous rhetoric including my own! n8

Title: Re: Haiti's Earthquake Disaster
Post by: seshatasefekht7 on January 31, 2010, 11:23:05 PM
Haiti Earthquake May Have Exposed Gas, Aiding Economy

By Jim Polson

Jan. 26 (Bloomberg) -- The earthquake that killed more than 150,000 people in Haiti this month may have left clues to petroleum reservoirs that could aid economic recovery in the Western Hemisphere’s poorest nation, a geologist said.

The Jan. 12 earthquake was on a fault line that passes near potential gas reserves, said Stephen Pierce, a geologist who worked in the region for 30 years for companies including the former Mobil Corp. The quake may have cracked rock formations along the fault, allowing gas or oil to temporarily seep toward the surface, he said yesterday in a telephone interview.

“A geologist, callous as it may seem, tracing that fault zone from Port-au-Prince to the border looking for gas and oil seeps, may find a structure that hasn’t been drilled,” said Pierce, exploration manager at Zion Oil & Gas Inc., a Dallas- based company that’s drilling in Israel. “A discovery could significantly improve the country’s economy and stimulate further exploration.”

Haitian Prime Minister Jean-Max Bellerive met yesterday in Montreal with diplomats, including U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to discuss redevelopment initiatives. Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said wind power may play a role in rebuilding the Caribbean nation, where forests have been denuded for lack of fuel, the Canadian Press reported.

“Haiti, from the standpoint of oil and gas exploration, is a lot less developed than the Dominican Republic,” Pierce said. “One could do a lot more work there.”

Abraham Lincoln’s Consul

The Dominican Republic shares the island of Hispaniola with Haiti. It may have 3 million barrels of oil in a shallow offshore formation that’s probably also shared by Haiti, Pierce said.

“One of the main reasons for the dearth of information on reserves in Haiti is that the Dominican Republic has numerous surface-hydrocarbon seeps while Haiti had very, very few,” he said.

Abraham Lincoln’s consul to the Dominican Republic reported oil seeps there in 1862. Neither nation produces oil or gas. As much as 1 trillion cubic feet of gas may be trapped in a border formation near the earthquake fault, Pierce said.

Pierce hasn’t worked in Hispaniola since joining Zion in February 2005. He said he’s unaware of any petroleum geologists conducting fieldwork in Haiti. There has been exploration of Ocoa Bay, the largest potential oil deposit in the Dominican Republic, he said.

600,000 Without Shelter

“All basins cross the border,” said Paul Mann, co-author of a 1991 paper in the Journal of Petroleum Geology on Hispaniola’s petroleum potential. The paper concluded that “existing seismic data indentify undrilled prospects.”

More than 600,000 people are without shelter in the Port- au-Prince area, the United Nations said Jan. 22. The 7.0- magnitude quake destroyed about one-third of the buildings in Port-au-Prince. It also knocked out the capital’s seaport and water and sewage systems.

“Relief and recovery for the survivors is the priority now,” Mark Fried, a spokesman for British charity Oxfam, said in a statement. “Hundreds of thousands who lost everything but their lives” need water, shelter and toilets to stop the spread of disease, he said.

‘Colossal’ Reconstruction

Haiti will need “massive support” for a “colossal” reconstruction from the earthquake, Bellerive said at the meeting yesterday in Montreal.

The Greater Antilles, which includes Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and their offshore waters, probably hold at least 142 million barrels of oil and 159 billion cubic feet of gas, according to a 2000 report by the U.S. Geological Survey. Undiscovered amounts may be as high as 941 million barrels of oil and 1.2 trillion cubic feet of gas, according to the report.

Among nations in the northern Caribbean, Cuba and Jamaica have awarded offshore leases for oil and gas development. Trinidad and Tobago, South American islands off the coast of Venezuela, account for most Caribbean oil production, according to the U.S. Energy Department.

To contact the reporter on this story: Jim Polson in New York at (