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Re: Race defined
In Response To: Re: Race defined ()

Race – 1. A family, tribe, people or nation belonging to the same stock. (Webster's New College Dictionary.)

This definition of race was first used circa 1500.

2. A division of mankind possessing traits that are transmissible by descent and sufficient to characterize it as a distinct human type. (Webster's New College Dictionary.)

2. (b) n: each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. (Concise Oxford English Dictionary.)

This definition, which went on to elaborate on the first definition, gained popularity circa 1774.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?l=r

I said: "In this regard, 'race' is a group of people who share major observable physical characteristics that can be transmitted via their genes. Race is based on phenotype or physical characteristics of the human specie. Physical features such as hair, skin colour, and facial appearance are all taken into consideration when defining one's race."

This to me, without ascribing the term ‘race’ to it was recognized very early on in history and was not a European invention. The evidence I presented was the Egyptian hieroglyphics showing that thousands of years ago, people did understand and recognized differences in phenotype although the actual term ‘'race’’ was not used to describe these differences.

Ras Heru: “I FIND A PARADOX, because at one time, MOST of the europeans definitions of what determined a race was by the pattern of 1.negroid 2. caucasoid 3.mongoloid, and EVENTHOUGH a group of africans had different facial features, they were STILL classified as negroid!”

I find this concern valid. Within one racial category, there will be groups within that category that possess slightly different physical characteristics due to their group evolution. This is common in all groups or ‘sub-groups’ within races. However, to classify a group as belonging to a race, MOST of their physical characteristics must be shared by others within that category. The three volumes of “Sex and Race” help in showing cross similarities between and among members of different races. One vivid example in the first volume, Chapter VI, shows via argument and in pictures that the first Japanese/Chinese/Mongoloids were from Africa. It did not only present the well-known fact that all other races of people came out of Africa but demonstrated that many of the physical characteristics belonging to those outside the continent today actually evolved in the continent of Africa itself. Those Africans who remained on the continent today may still possess these and other features today, although they have traits such as dark skin, kinky hair and other features that still make them characteristically African.

Ras Heru: “Im basically saying NOW, that i dont agree with that given definition of "race" because it is my knowing, that the blackwomb/man and their families are the originals of this earth AND the ONLY HUE-MAN species, therefore ONE people, which GOES BEYOND petty physical differences.”

While I agree that African people were the first humans on the planet, I do not agree with your view that Africans are the only humans. You said:

“well according to my re-search, i found out that the word HUE signifies complexion,different shades, and so on.Therefore (and nature truly proves this point), the ONLY "race" of people are the Indigenous/Original man and wombman of the planet earth, the so called blackman wombman and child.Remember leslie, if we didnt do certain things, we would STILL be the only type on this planet earth.”

If, based on your definition of the word, “HUE-MAN”, that it is based on complexion, different shades etc, then a variety of races (all races) would fall into this category. It does not make them non-human or sub-human at all. Also, even if Africans are the “originals of this earth”, there are, because of evolution and race mixing different physical characteristics that are evident within the African race. These differences, in this era, are not “petty” because people relate to Africans based on these differences. Thus issues such as colorism are crucial, especially within the African community because we are treated/ treat each other based on them.

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Is there one human race?
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Dissect the wors Hue-Man
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What about Nuclear DNA? *LINK*
Correction *LINK*
Neanderthal- The Rebirth
GENOME PROJECT SOLVED MYSTRY *LINK*
Is the neanderthal also descended from Africans? *NM*
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Only human that came out of Africa was the African
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gman, hotep to the self/truth/power *NM*
epiphany: COLORISM
ANCIENT AFRICANS KNEW OF EUROPEAN 'NEANDERTHALS"
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Neanderthals, Red Hair and Migrations
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Mural of the Races *LINK*
Race defined
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Yeah, thats what I meant, hotep
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Lilith's Curse *LINK*
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So tru rasta


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