As many of you may know I am a follower of tradition African Religion (ATR), but my thoughs have been on a few things and maybe as some say I think to much. I had a conversation with a brother recently and in it I stated that oyinbo (white folk) will never let us co exist with them in peace, the reason being they can't it is not in them they are yurugu and that carries spiritual conotations. I am not trying so much to debate as I know you all have your views and I want to hear them. But my thoughts run deeper than yurugu. I went to a great event last night it was the NAJWA Dance Corps. It was good the Afrikan Dancing and all.But from what little I know Afrikan dance is more than entertainment it is spiriyual we honor the Amscestors in dance we call upon them in dance and libation. We honor our Gods in dance we call upon them as well in dance. It is more than entertainment. For me one that is striving to decolonize my mind and live as an Afrikan everyday. realizing that I am Afrikan. I looked at the many people there even oyinbo. And I thought how much is this to us as a people is this entertainment or is this spiritual as they poured out libation to the Anscestors I was very much exited and elated and acknowledged my Anscestors, but how many of us realized the inpact of that. I am not trying to be jugdemental these are my thoughts and concerns. because I have read and believe that until we return to our roots we will not be free. as we keep trying to hold on to the notion of being amerikkkan we will not be free. I also saw some ugly things there that disturbed me. the venders were Afrikans from the continent, but they were all muslim. this hurt me because I know that islam is not our root. it was forced and (given to us by enslavers arabs) many say Arabs are our brothers I am not going to discuss that, but as I thought knowing that Islams goal is to make the whole world islamic again I thought how can we co exist with the Arabs as well since they want us to bow to Allah. Many may think me crazy but that is the truth. And in looking at my Afrikan brothers and sisters who were muslim I thought how can we reconcile how can we co exist if what you are believing calls me an infidel and you truth is to (for lack of a better word) convert me. I am not interested in Allah I am not interested in th Arab God. and islam is not about letting me live peacefully if I do not convert. Then there are the Christian Afrikans. there goal also is to convert me. now there may be a difference in that Afrikan Black christians may not pull a sword on me and tell me to convert, and there may be a possibility of co existance, but from the oyinbo christian this is not the case. look at pat robertson, and beeny hinn. etc. they conmtinue to undermine our culture, they send thier missionaries in to subvert and destroy all we believe. I may be wrong about the Afrikan Black christian, butthey send there missionaries in as well because they IMO are captivated by the theology of oyinbo. We as a people seem to be at times at least me all or nothing. no half way no straddling the fence. so how can we unite how can we coexist with these glaring opions, last thing said. I too am guilty as a follower of ATR I do not try to convert people as that is not the way of Ifa, but at the same time I do not understand how we as a people can come face to face with what to me is truth the ways of our Anscestors and yet reject it. Yes in my mind I don't see Christians or Muslims as infidels but I do see them as lost. So I am guilty as well what shall we do. ( oh and by the way when I say lost I dont mean condemned to hell) I mean lost in their thinking, because as an ATR I do not belive in hell
Peace Ifayomi

point of correction, christianity is a white mans religion originating from judaism. Jews do not follow christianity and if they do they are divorced/disconnected from their family, in infact, they rejected jesus and are still waiting for their messiah. All those who became christians were divorced/chased from thier families and so they moved to other places like Rome. The Romans started the spread of christianity and to use it to rule & conquer other peolpe. Plus all those days u celebrate like easter and christmas were celebrated by the Romans & Greeks in relation to their pagan religions like worshiping their sun god on sunday on which most christians still worship. Read the Roman & Greek history you will be surprisd on just how much Romans & Greeks influence is in Christianity.

Man u're tripping. To say there is no such thing as AFRICA OR AFRICAN is just unacceptable becouse our mighty race has adopted and 'AFRIKANIZED' it and now used to refer to ourselves than negro. At this point in our history, i can assure u that no one will hear ya cry to change this name (AFRICA). Not in this century and i don't think it will ever happen. AFRICA IS HERE TO STAY AND IS HEADED TOWARDS MORE AFRICANIZATION BY REPLACING THE 'C' WITH THE 'K' --> AFRIKA.
If u have ya christian name u would like to use in place of AFRICA, then tough luck. You will try but u'll just die with it, it can never happen as not all Afrikan are christians and it just wouldn't be right. Unless the all race is brainwashed with this religion in whose name the biggest horocost (slavery), in human history, was commited. 

The Romans and the Greeks were just tryin to describe a foreign land as a place with no snow/cold and free of horror then along the way the name was applied to their conqured province with its capital at Cathage in present day north Africa. No racism was involved it was just a description which became a name just like they refered to other places like Asia. Like Babylon is the Greek variant of the city of Akkadian Babilu in ancient Mesopotamia and not the jewish interpretation from their hebrew word babel meaning confusion. So Babylon as applied to Hebrew or un informed people, means confusion but the jews heard it from the Greeks who did not mean no harm but refered to a city. For further direction about the word Africa go to WIKIPEDIA encyclopidia or Britannica.


To begin with let me answer your question -who are we ? We are a mighty race of Afrika, a race with the most diverse culture. Simple as that, widely accepted and recognised.

Point of correction: Not all Afrikans are Kushite, nubians, phuttite & kemets but all Kushite, nubians, phuttite & kemets are Afrikan ethnic groups. I aint no kushite,nubian,phutite or kemeti, I belong to the BANTU ETHNIC GROUP OF AFRIKA, OCCUPYING THE AREA FROM SOUTHERN SOMALIA IN THE EAST THRU TO CAMERON IN THE WEST AND GOING DOWN TO SOUTH AFRICA. OR SIMPLY ALL THE AREA BELOW NATIONS OF CHAD, SUDAN, ETHIOPIA AND SOMALIA IN AFRIKA.

On ya religious utterance- [that's if you as a human believe in God and the bible], you should know that we all got the freedom to practice a recognised religion of our choice and that being a christian does not make u more human than others. MAN MAKES RELIGION, RELIGION DOES NOT MAKE MAN.
 

DO U MEAN ARABS ARE IN OUR AFRIKAN FAMILY OR YA FAMILY:
-If u mean Arabs are in our Afrikan family, think again and be carefull how u translate that genesis. We are a unique AFRIKAN RACE and arabs are thier own race. Maybe if u're Afrikan of Somali/Djibouti/Eritrean/even Ethiopian decent then its a very high possibility. 
-But if u mean u got some arabs in ya family thru imtermarriage then that your issue.
I be forwarding my race by marrying Afrikan and having Afrikan children like my ancestors and thus ensure the continuity of my great race. 
 


NEVA FORGET WHO U IS, WE WILL NEVA BE JEWS/ARABS/EUROPEANS/ASIANS. WE WILL ALWAYS BE AFRIKANS TILL THA END OF TIME.


KEEP IT AFRIKAN.

ALUTA KONTINUA !                                                                       

MWANAAFRIKA.

 
Man, there is no point sayin this again but weather u like it or not christianity is white mans religion. A jew/arab is more closer to whiteman and very far away from Afroman family and no factual connection at all unless other wise. Its impossible for a jew/arab to give birth to a beautifull chocolate baby, ONLY IN THE ONE DROP VIEW. We are Afrikans bcoz our ancesters are Afrikans not bcoz there was a one drop.
u say clearly that some have curly hair and dark skin in some parts, well thats bcoz their parents/grandies/greats intermarried with our own. Do u think all those enslaved Afrikans in Arab land were killed ? No all, some intermarried and after years of intermarriage they still got some Afro blood and features in them. WE THE AFRIKANS ARE A UNIQUE RACE AND THE ORIGIN OF ALL OTHER AFRO RACE GROUPS IN THE WORLD. AFRO race groups examples includes black south americans & Asians, papuans, Fijians e.t.c.

Okey, lets look at the facts:
Pagan Rome became christian Rome throuth the Roman Catholic church, the first christian church believe it or not.
The Roman Catholic Church traces its origins to Jesus and the Twelve Apostles, in particular Peter, the leader of the Apostles, who is traditionally regarded as the first Pope. It rose to prominence in the fourth-century Roman Empire, when Constantine I issued the Edict of Milan in 313. From 380, Christianity was declared the Roman state religion. The jews practice judaism and use the Hebrew bible which the Christians call the old testament.



IF U STILL DON'T GET IT, I LEAVE U WITH QUESTIONS BELOW TO ANSWER TO THE BEST OF YA KNOWLEDGE AND KNOWN FACTS:
1.Whats the origin of christianity and why aint jews christians?
Note that one can neva be a jew & a christian at the same time & to be a jew u've to follow judaism with a hebrew bible.
2.Class the following groups of people in two families. (a) Spaniards (b) Seminore Indian (c) Aryan Indians (d) Dalit Indian (e) Arabs (f) Maori (g) Papuan/Fijians

3.Prove and clearly justify the origin of Afrikans.
4.Use descriptions, features, culture and any similarity to justify the birth relation of Afrikans to jews & Arabs.




KEEP IT AFRIKAN.

ALUTA KONTINUA ! ! !

Mwanaafrika.

Ifayomi said :
Who told you that AFricans sold their own ?  instead of writing silly things you better to start learning YOUR HISTORY  .
This is the usual problem of Black people , we don't read ( or we don't want to ) , because we have no idea of our History , we worship God we don't know , we hate ourselves , we have no consideration of ourselves.

We are the Only people to worship the God of our slave-masters descendants and be pride of it , we , without , any kind of shame , try to colored Jesus-christ in Black , although we know christianity is not the religion of our forefathers, we think as Blacks ( out of Africa ) that our History start in the boats of the whites slave dealers.

Did americans caucasians stop being Christians because they have changed their living places ? no , their white Europeans forefathers were Christians that's why they are christians too .

We as blacks got to look in Africa , because , there is our religions , our languages , our souls ...i can believe that we hate us that much to pray Allah or Jesus or even Sélassié , we are the most ridiculous people ...
Did you ever seen a Japanese who's christian or Muslim ? or a Indian ( from India ) who has not the religion of his forefather ? no , but there is plenty of Black christians ,or black Muslims , like if we did'nt have enough in brainwashing ... when are we gonna stop that madness !   

Hotep Muanaafrica ,
Are you the Muana Africa from www.Grioo.com ? if yes , you understand perfectly my point .
Iam not saying Africans are ridiculous , what iam saying here is the ones who are bending in front of aliens Gods and pray them  ( Jahvé , or Jésus , or Allah ect...) are ridiculous because it's abosolutly not their Culture either those of their forefathers Gods, and worshiping those brutal Gods is making us intolerent too .

Hopefully you got my view !
Hotep .

I FEEL YOU IFA. I GET A KNOT RIGHT ABOVE MY ABDOMEN BUT RIGHT BELOW MY HEART WHEN I THINK ABOUT HOW ISLAM NOR CHRISTIANITY HAS BENEFITED MY PEOPLE. IT ONLY DIVIDES US EVEN MORE THAN WHAT WE ARE NOW. I DARE A CHRISTIAN TO NAME ONE THING THAT HIS RELIGION HAS DONE TO LIBERATE OUR RACE FROM THE BONDAGE OF WHITE SUPREMACY? STOP THIS MISPLACED LOYALTY TO YOUR RELIGIOUS, POLITICAL, FRATERNAL ECT. AFFILIATIONS. WE ARE ONE PEOPLE; BLACK PEOPLE OR AS A KAMETIAN WOULD SAY KAMAU.

Greetings. The ancestural system of worship have a vast reserve of spiritual wealth that are a result of thousands of years of practice. Modern systems (3600 years and younger) that do not incorporate these systems do not begin to compare with the levels of spirituality these systems posses. If I were to say something like what I have just said what would your response be? Anyone may respond if they wish.

Forgive me as I have not been here my setting were wrong will be back
Peace
Oyinfunmilayo-Ifayomi