Black disorganization

[jemba]

Why do many of the black organizations in the U.S.A prefer to take a different path? Towards the revolutionary cause which they all are a part of. I am in London and we have various black organizations from the states. All I see is them either clashing for members or disagreeing with each other on very silly topics. My point is they never bow down. Each of these organizations, are becoming more and more like cults.
They all have a leader in which they aspire to become or be like and follow them like headless chickens. We should honour all our leaders because nobody is going to. But also realise that they are only human. Which means they can make mistakes? So if the pan African nationalists don’t get along with the new Black Panther party for self librarian. And the nuwapian moors can’t get along with the nation of Islam or the kemet societies, who are we going to blame but the leaders?  

[Bantu_Kelani]

I feel you Jemba, White imperialism and colonialism takes place in black nations because there is no political unity among the bulk of our peoples. The Imperial machine knows our weakness: a low level of revolutionary African consciousness and a tendency to be divisive .

B.K

[Oshun_Auset]

We need a United African front. All the people you mentioned are organized, otherwise they wouldn't be in an organization...they/we lack unity.

"Our people have made the mistake of confusing the methods with the objectives. As long as we agree on objectives, we should never fall out with each other just because we believe in different methods, or tactics, or strategy. We have to keep in mind at all times that we are not fighting for separation. We are fighting for recognition as free humans in this society."
-El-Haj Malik El-Shabazz (Malcom X)

One of the many reasons he had to die...

[jemba]

I think aftrikans abroad have lost the socialist heritage which they should have within their genes. White folks sure have done a good job on us? Maybe we all need to go back to our origins to see how villages live, even in poverty they manage to retain their respect for the laws and each other. Ill definitely be going back to lodga in the province of kasai where I was born. If anybody wants to check me there this summer you are welcome to? Just bring as some soap and salt that is all they are asking me for.

[black_truth]

Peace and greetings,
Different organizations in the struggle is a natural expected phenomena. They are to be expected. This reality doesn't just exist amongst Africans in America but African people all over the world. We have to unite on the basis of what we have in common. No group of African people can do any finger pointing. The oppression and exploitation of Africans is a global reality  Peac


                     black_truth

[Ayinde]

While I can easily agree with the many stated objectives of Black organizations, I do not necessarily agree with their methods.

There are too many concepts thrown around like clichés without real substantive meanings to go with them. One such concept is "African unity"; another is "African freedom". It is quite understandable that many feel that they are working towards these objectives, but without clear definitions and methods for attaining these objectives people can be in reality doing little to nothing for a long time.

It is quite in order for organizations to have objectives (however undefined they may be) but the methods or order for attaining such can show if they are really making progress. The order for doing things has to be realized.

How can people lead works for the freedom of people in general if they do not understand or experience personal freedom? How can people lead moves for Unity on a grander scale if they do not experience and understand Unity within their own selves? How can people ever expect to be in CONTROL if daily they demonstrate a lack of self-control?

Often we see individuals screaming for help for African causes when their real concerns are personal. They usually superimpose their personal dramas over the collective, and although the collective may have similar issues, their real focus is narrowly personal. It is for this reason we see when some reach a measure of comfort with their personal issues they no longer show an appreciation for the collective efforts.

Many people are aware that they have serious shortcomings but they casually accept them as being human. These same people then expect others to change. The hypocrisies thwart all works.

It is by the efforts of people who are working towards their own personal freedom, (unity with their selves, self-control etc.) that automatically allows the global objectives to be realized.

[jemba]

One’s is what every black organization preaches whether they are a political movement or spiritual movement or scientific movement.
But their can not be a togetherness if they all have different leaders with their own agendas. The Europeans apply exactly the same system of CONTROL as our ancestors did in the Zulu empire or Kush or Kongo.
One Pharaoh or king in charge of politics GEORGE BUSH. One high priest in charge of the religious system the POPE. One person in charge of the scientific development of the society. In this way everybody who is born into the society already have a system that is developed for them to fit into. It may sound like dictatorship and even though the Europeans miss use the three triangles of life. Whenever an organization or
Civilization applied the system it always has positive results.
That was only a suggestion, now if we actually went and asked each one of our organization to practice one’s in this way, what do you think their leaders would say?
It might sound like a joke, but just imagine it for one second?

[Bantu_Kelani]

Often we see individuals screaming for help for African causes when their real concerns are personal. They usually superimpose their personal dramas over the collective, and although the collective may have similar issues, their real focus is narrowly personal. It is for this reason we see when some reach a measure of comfort with their personal issues they no longer show an appreciation for the collective efforts.

Many people are aware that they have serious shortcomings but they casually accept them as being human. These same people then expect others to change. The hypocrisies thwart all works.

If, as you said many times, continental Africans are in the best position to solve their problems why are we criticized to have narrow views here and in Africa?

If the brothers and sisters from the Motherland have only themselves to solve their problems why are they being criticized to be nationalists?

B.K

[Ayinde]

I think you should read what I wrote again.

I did not criticize any one group of Africans be they continental or Diasporan. I was deliberately quite general in my statement. I said, "Often we see individuals screaming for help for "African causes". I doubt "African causes" can be interpreted as only causes about Africans on the continent of Africa.

Therefore the questions you are now asking do not pertain to what I wrote, so I will leave them for others to whom they may apply for a response.

[Bantu_Kelani]

I think you should read what I wrote again.

I did not criticize any one group of Africans be they continental or Diasporan. I was deliberately quite general in my statement. I said, "Often we see individuals screaming for help for "African causes". I doubt "African causes" can be interpreted as only causes about Africans on the continent of Africa.

Therefore the questions you are now asking do not pertain to what I wrote, so I will leave them for others to whom they may apply for a response.

Sorry I misunderstoond what you say, now I think that I agree with you.

B.K