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gman
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« on: February 05, 2004, 10:47:16 AM »

Everybody should get all their albums, nuff said.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2004, 08:31:48 AM »

Dead Prez "Propaganda"

Verse 1:
You can't fool all the people all of the time
But if you fool the right ones, then the rest will fall behind
Tell me who's got control of your mind? your world view?
Is it the news or the movie you're taking your girl to? (uh)
Know what i'm sayin cause uncle sam got a plan
If you examine what they tellin us then you will understand
What they plantin in the seeds of the next generation
Feeding our children miseducation
No one knows if there's ufo's or any life on mars
Or what they do when they up in the stars
Because i don't believe a word of what the president said
He filling our head with lies got us hypnotised
When he be speaking in cold words about crime and poverty
Drugs, welfare, prisons, guns and robbery
It really means us, there's no excuse for the slander
But what's good for the goose, is still good for the gander
See...

Chorus:
I don't believe bob marley died from cancer
31 years ago i woulda been a panther
They killed huey cause they knew he had the answer
The views that you see in the news is propaganda

Singing:
Telling lies, to our vision
Telling lies, to our children
Telling lies, to our babies
Only truth, can take us...

Verse 2:
I don't want no computer chip in my arm
I don't wanna die by a nuclear bomb
I say we all rush the pentagon, pull out guns
And grab the intercom, my first word's will be i believe
Man made god, outta ignorance and fear
If god made man, then why the hell would he put us here?
I thought he's supposed to be the all loving
The same god who let hitler put the jews in the oven
We don't fall for the regular sh*t, they try to feed us


All this half-ass leadership, flippin position
They turn politcian and shut the hell up and follow tradition
For your tv screen, is telling lies to your vision
Every channel got some brainwashed cop sh*t to watch
Running up in niggas cribs claiming that they heard shots
It's a plot, but busta can you tell me who's greedier?
Big corporations, the pigs or the media?
Sign of the times, terrorism on the rise
Commercial airplanes, falling out the sky like flies
Make me wonder what secrets went down with ron brown
Who burnt churches to the ground with no evidence found?
It's not coincidence, it's been too many steady incidents
It coulda been the klan who put that bomb at the olympics
But it probably was the fbi, deep at the call
Cuz if they make us all panic then they can start martial law

Chorus:
I don't believe bob marley died from cancer
31 years ago i woulda been a panther
They killed huey cause they knew he had the answer
The views that you see in the news is propaganda

I don't believe bob marley died from cancer
31 years ago i woulda been a panther
They killed huey cause they knew he had the answer
The views that you see in the news is muthaf*in propaganda

Singing:
Police is telling lies fooling millions
What are they teaching our kids in these school buildings?
Televised, enterprised in all the killing
Controlling our lives, this ain't living
No this ain't living

Chant:
Fbi, cia
Atf, kkk
Irs, tnt
Cbs, nbc

Fbi, cia
Atf, kkk
Irs, tnt
Cbs, nbc

Singing:
Telling lies, to our vision
Telling lies, to our children
Telling lies, to our babies
Only truth, can take us...
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2004, 11:22:51 AM »

Dead Prez is an incredible, super-concious group.  Their music resonates really dtrongly with me.  As is evidenced in the lyrics to Propoganda, they don't believe in God, which is about the only thing I disagree with them on.  "Let's Get Free" is their best album, I think.

JOshua
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2004, 11:38:54 AM »

i don't have any Dead Prez albums...what should i start with?
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2004, 11:42:56 AM »

I like there music but do they have to use the word "nigga"? If they didn't there music would be FLAWLESS to me...

I don't know why, but it bugs me when they rap politically and about black power but use an oppressive word like that.
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iyah360
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2004, 12:58:14 PM »

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they don't believe in God, which is about the only thing I disagree with them on.


Not believing in the white western concept of "god" is NO MEASUREMENT WHATSOEVER of belief in the TRUE GOD.


http://www.hiphop.co.za/flipside/interviews/dead_prez/
"madswan: Why do you not believe in God?
M1: I believe in freedom first, then freedom to choose any unoppressed god
MassDosage: so do you believe in *a* god? a supreme power?
stic: yes but i spell "god" like this gOOd
Pneuma: In African culture we worship and respect our ancestors more, perhaps you'd like to get into that?
M1: Afican people have always been in touch with our spirituality
M1: without them we wouldn't be here
fullclip: Sort of like how can you worry about god (or a god) when your self is not free?
Heidi: isnt respect for people like malcolm x 'worship' of ancestors?
stic: yes heidi.
stic: we are in our ancestors hands long live the afrikan warrrior spirit
fullclip: Aren't the ideas the ancestors passed on/stood for more important than the ancestor?
stic: yes fullclip and only the ideas that work for us today
Funcrusha: does your gOOd have a gender?
stic: no but it does have an a-genda
M1: lol
Funcrusha: and what is that a-genda?
M1: love, respect, equality, understanding, freedom, peace and all that good shit'

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Oshun_Auset
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« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2004, 02:30:18 PM »

Dead Prez is one of only a few politically/socially educated hip-hop groups out. The Coup and Paris are other suggested listennings. The best edutainment around....The ONLY hip-hop I listen to outside of a few old-school artists like KRS-1 and
X-klan.

If roots reggae and the few hip-hop artists mentioned didn't exist....I would go crazy!

They are street cats...it's hard to stop saying 'nigga' man, especially when you are organizing your people. You have to talk like they talk, and Dead Prez are community activists.

But I see your point.

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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2004, 03:39:50 AM »

Fari Ises!!

Check out dis link,
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/panafrikansmusic.htm

For some serious PanAfrikan conscious HipHop music made by Rastafari brethren.

Please take look, and drop a message to say what you think of it!

Hail the King and Queen of Iration,
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/panafrikans.htm
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gman
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2004, 10:48:22 AM »

The new dead prez album "RBG" is out now.
RBG means Red Black and Green, Revolutionary but Gangsta, Read 'Bout Garvey, Real Black Girl, Righteous Black Guerrilla, Rollin' Big Ganja, Real Big Guns...etc etc...
I haven't heard it yet as I'm in Brazil and can't find it, but the clips I've heard on dead prez's site sound really good.
If you can't afford the CD there's places you can download it from (not sure where but they're there) and actually the bootleg version apparently contains two more tracks than the official one. dead prez won't mind if you download it, after all they say on their song "F*** the Law" , "F*** with deepeez, steal the CD's"...
dead prez's site is www.deadprez.com if I remember correctly.
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iyah360
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2004, 11:36:07 AM »

RBG is a decent release. I suggest going to their message board at deadprez.com . . . some relevent reasonings take place on it. That board deals well with the white privilege issue.

Glad to hear some lyrics which correspond with some conclusions I have been drawing such as the benefits of proper organization and self-knowledge.
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Oshun_Auset
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2004, 12:23:39 PM »

 They also have "Get free or die trying" (an obvious pun on 50 cents album title)
and "Turn off the Radio"....

Here's some good info also

http://www.thetalkingdrum.com/rbg.html  

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gman
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2004, 09:07:19 AM »

Yunno dead prez my favorite rappers have really disappointed me. They are advertising for Ecko clothes a sportswear company owned by a typical rich cracker tycoon (Mark Ecko) who contracts out his production to sweatshops in the "3rd world" just like pretty much every other clothing manufacturer. To me this contradicts dpz's message completely. I don't care how badly they needed the money, dpz should have never done that, they suppose to be representing something. Anyway they still my favorite rappers, at least in the semi-mainstream, but personally I ain't gonna support them financially any more until they get out of their contract with Ecko. I'll save my few dollars and burn or dub their cd's. And I won't be rocking they t-shirts either.
Any other dpz fans wanna hold them accountable for this?
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iyah360
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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2004, 07:08:48 AM »

dead prez claims to be all about pimpin' tha' system. i could see the rationale of such a seemingly unrevolutionary move to pose for a clothing company to be basically gettin' $ by any means necessary to forward the struggle. we don't know that they will be doing with the cash they get from this . . . I think it comes down to this - lead by example and don't do anything to piss off the ones who have turned you into idols OR do what you need to do to forward your vision even if what you do seems contradictory on the surface. until i learn differently. .. i will be giving dead prez the benefit of the doubt.

i think in this day and time you gotta know how to use things to your advantage, play the powers off one another to forward your plan.
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Kingston
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2004, 08:33:10 AM »

Iyah...

Pimpin' the system is one thing but this (advertising for Ecko) is pimpin the third world in my opinion.  I'd like to find out where Ecko produces their clothes and if they use "Freezones" to get ou of paying taxes and benifets.  

To me, if they wanted to pimp the system with clothing they could have produced thier own clothing line to advertise and not let the system reap any money in the process.  Keep it black owned and operated.

I have to say that Deap Prez has taken a step back in my eyes but who am I to judge as I am not them and do not have their decisions to make.  Maybe they do have a bigger plan in the future.

next...

..Kingston..

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« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2004, 10:09:34 AM »

I just heard that dpz performed a show in London which was sponsored by Ecko and they lashed out at Ecko right then and there. If that's true and they doing that consistently, that pretty much changes the opinion I expressed in the last post. Take they money, but abuse them same time, I like that. But they need to make a more public condemnation of Ecko and explanantion of their strategy in accepting the sponsorship, than only doing it at shows. But all in all that restores my confidence in dpz.
Download the pre-release version of "RBG", it has two extra songs which are excellent which for some reason didn't get put on the official release.
Check out they video "Hell Yeah" which is temporarily available on the Sony dpz website (www.deadprez.com) It's been quite controversial but I think a lot of folks dissing it lack a sense of humor, anyway I like the video... check it out y'all
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