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« on: November 05, 2004, 03:11:26 PM »

MUTABARUKA: religion was created by insecure men to oppress women. Religion is the basis of all political ideas and it exempts the human being to find the 'I' in them. First we have to understand that the majority of the people in Jamaica is of African descent, we cannot keep shaping a political religious and economical ideas without understanding the history and culture of the people that are supposed to be governed. The Westminster system and Christianity has not offered black people any true solution to their needs. The intellectuals in the Jamaican society should now sit down and study the history and culture of the African people before slavery. There must have been a society in Africa that was keeping Africans in tact for thousands of years before the coming of the white man. The intellectuals have not analyzed or evaluated the culture of the majority of the people, what we see is a mimicking of democracy, communism and socialism, that was given to us by the Greeks and the Romans, not taking into consideration the majority of people whom those ideologies is supposed to be governing. So we need new thoughts new ideas, centers around an African-centred solution

http://www.mutabaruka.com/chat.htm
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« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2004, 04:10:08 PM »

Greetings Lord Tyehimba.

"Religion was created by insecure men to oppress women. Religion is the basis of all political ideas and it exempts the human being to find the 'I' in them".

the WHOLE quote that de I has taken from Ras Muta is TRUE.but onesmight get CON-fused by the first line if they dont follow through.he isnt talking about religion as a whole,but the religions of thistime that causes grief and harm.but the religions of InI people were Iine,thats why we had a Heaven on earth type of Livity.just clarifying.GiVE THANKHS.
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2005, 05:10:10 AM »

True dat Hous of Rasta,

One should also note that InI beleifs was never a religion of the go-to-church-and-pray-on-Sunday scenario, rather African beleifs have always been ingrained into the daily life of the peoples.

The problem is that when Europeans discovered Africa and its fine peoples, they came with their own terminologies like religion etc, and tried to fit us into the mould through which they saw the world. If Africa had been left to its own divices, i'm sure our science and philosophy would have taken a totally different and divine twist. But there we have it!

Thanks for the words Tyehimba.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2006, 03:25:59 PM »

what muta is saying that before the dawn of christianity and before the dawn of islam our ancestors,hada belief system in place and what he is saying,is true that religion was created to confuse people,most black christians,use the bible,the king james version of the bible,rastas use the bible as well,it is mixed with christ insanity,things have been blown out of context,hali sellassi have become worship figure( the cult of personality) Shocked
 how can true living deities be turned into jesus myth,is beyond me,everything that is in the universe is in us
earth,fire,water,air,G.O.D!  gift of divinity! Two Thumbs
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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2007, 11:02:29 PM »

yes mutabaruka words resonates in the four cotners of the word,i dunno if he said that one,correct if i am wrong," they told us to pary with our eyes closed when we woke up ,we had the bile and they had the land" Two Thumbs
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2007, 03:56:00 AM »

yes mutabaruka words resonates in the four cotners of the word,i dunno if he said that one,correct if i am wrong," they told us to pary with our eyes closed when we woke up ,we had the bile and they had the land" Two Thumbs

Ironically, that is a quote ffrom Bishop Desmond Tutu.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 04:59:54 AM »

this is what —Mahatma Gandhi had to say re religion:
"The various religions are like different roads converging on the same point. What difference does it make if we follow different routes, provided we arrive at the same destination."
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