peace and hotep,
the topic should have been
WHY DID AFRICANS DO THIS TO EUROPEAN/WHITE PEOPLE?
or is it possible that superstitious africans in prehistoric times exiled thousands of their own depigmented/albino children because of taboos.
toni morrison's "Beloved" illustrates this subject of abandonment perfectly. the attempted murder of a child in order to prevent the sufferring of that child. only for the parents to be forever haunted by the memory of a dirty past deed.
Peace and hotep,
I believe that this whole topic is an effort to undermine a credible African female psychiatrist, frances cress welsing. Her theories should only be compared to the theorists of her field, psychiatry. Specifically psychiatrist.
"WHY did European/White people do this to the world?"
I would like everyone's ideas on this because although I am a Pan-Africanist, and socialism says that racism was created as an excuse to exploit other peoples...I have a hard time reconciling that with the OBVIOUS racism that took place in the Nicean conference which was far prior to the colonial period and the Aryan invasion of the origional Dravidian/Dalit population of the Indus valley(and the subsequent caste system established)........
oshun_auset, the concept of racism(white supremacy) is fairly new because white supremacy is based on a false idea of black inferiority. justification for chattel/ or generational slavery by european colonizers between 1500 - 1700ad was based solely on labor needs and biblical rhetoric(and of course skin color was a better tool of class separation)l as j. a. rogers chronicles this in his 'sex and race'. before the 1700's there was no proof as to whether africans were inferior or superior. because of historic miseducation in europe, rumors existed but the proof that africans maintained superior civilizations came only after the deciphering of the language of egypt/kemit. once the truth about the african origene of civilization was revealed there was a concerted effort to suppress the truth. that gross suppression of the truth is what we now refer to as racism and it began at that point of suppression. circa 1750 ad.
"WHY did European/White people do this to the world?"
Do you go with the Isis Papers Keys to the Colours theory, the Ice Man Inheritance theory, or the socialist theory...what explains European/White people's global and historical hostility towards people with melanin?....If there are other theories out there please explain
the isis paper is sufficient.
"WHY did European/White people do this to the world?"
"The Isis papers" says...Albino's leaving/being kicked out of Africa, therefore having a inferiority complex because of the lack of melanin(being allergic to the sun is not natural or man's origional state of being and is also only a conditions suffered by the minority), and therefore, like a bully who feels bad about himself, subjugates others to feel better, and sets up a superirity system,to combat internal inferiority because of lack of melanin... Also removes the female principle in spirituality because of the "origional sin"/birth defect of albonism.
on your level . . . if a bully was continually beating you up, wouldn't YOU formulate a theory based on past experience which said "this bully is whack, he is mean as this is the behavior he has showed me constantly . . .so therefore I have come to a working conclusion that I do not want to associate with this bully as he brings nothing but negativity to my life."
the system of white supremacy has created white people into beneficiaries of bullies . . we can continue to deny this fact and get nowhere or face it and make some real progress. this is reality.
oshun_auset, why make a post, try to bully your position or use reverse thinking when the agenda which you sat forth is opposed?
Next post---- Bantu_Kelani and a version of Welsings ‘neurochemical basis for evil’ as told by T.Owens Moore, M.D. which shows that Bantu kelani can accept some of welsing…….but she blames the spiritual imbalance of ‘white’ on melanine deficiency
Just forget everything else that welsing brought forth.
oshun_auset, why didn't you bully bantu_kelani when she regurgitated a portion of welsings' analysis to support her own bigoted agenda. reparations for african and not for humanity. if european/white people are as bad as some people here suggest, it is only right that the worst case should be repaired first. this topic suggests that white people are in desperate need of repair and if they are beyond repair we are truly screwed.
"please show where african communalism is or has been practiced. i do not see it because the logical extension of african communalisms brought us to amorica. africa was and is complicitous in its own destruction. the only african personality that i am witness to is one of arrogance, stubborness and ignorance."
This statement shows you have fallen pray to the Euro-centric version of his-story, and that you are no friend of African people, I will no longer communicate with you on that basis. If this site alone hasn't enlightened your mentality about the histoury of your own people(I'm going off of the notion you are African) than there is no hope for you.
oshun_auset, your way or the highway. don't be such a bully. so is it ok if you communicate withe me as a depigmented european african who is still your chile?
What does everyone think developed 'this unyielding lust of power' in European civilization? Do you think it is the unlucky combination of spiritual immaturity of a younger human population
spiritual immaturity of a younger human population? hmmmm..
without an unyielding lust for power humans would have never developed walled cities, domesticated animals or engaged in agriculture. i would suggest that we all donate all of our possessions to charity because surely they exemplify our on lusts and spiritual immaturity.
The wicked and unrighteous behavior of the rest of the Caucasian race just stem from an unyielding lush for power. The great majority of white folks live and enjoy the fruits of its evils perhaps that why they refuse to acknowledge that what is obvious.
now that is the pot calling the kettle 'white'. i see that the majority of 'white' folks are as miseducated as the majority of black/non'whites. someone said ' the poor are made slaves by thoses who teach lies, by those who don't teach the true meaning of cause and effect.
CAUSE AND EFFECT
"WHY did European/White people do this to the world?"
"The Ice Man Inheritance says...European agression derives from the harsh conditions of survival in Europe...that the lack of melanin is from environmental conditions. Where there is little sun(Europe), man's melanin content had to deplete to be able to get the propper amount of vitamin A. Where as in Africa(and other parts of the world) Melanin was needed to protect us from the sun's harmful UV rays, and life in Africa was not as hostile because of the tropical conditions(more food, more temperate climate, easier life, minimized hostility)...Also the removalof the female principle in spirituality was due to the domminant physical male being revered becuase he was necessary to combat harsh conditions and survive. The female was weaker(physically) and therefore not deserving of spiritual reverence...
oshun_ auset, does michael bradley admit that the ICEMEN WERE AFRICANS......why not? welsing does. which socialist writer will admit that THE ICEMEN ARE/WERE AFRICANS?
"WHY did European/White people do this to the world?"
Basically I am asking the big question...
"WHY did Eurpean/White people do this to the world?"
I havn't came to a conclusion yet and would very much appreciate other people's opinions and input on what they think...
Thanks
So do you have any explanation of why Eurpoean culture "excelled" at exploitation and subjugation of the entire world?
oshun_auset, you are not admitting that your self have failed. if so, i think we should then agree withe you. i would not agree that you have or will ever fail in the face of european cultural excellance. you are not being subjagated or exploited presently? if so, send s.o.s or a message in a bottle.
There is no doubt in my mind the counterfeit historical and anthropological ideas and theories of European scholars are intended so the White Establishment continues its exploitation and oppression of Black Africans. Despite these well-known DISTORTIONS the whites so-called Africanists have the audacity to uphold these lies on Black forums. When conscious and educated Black folks relate the TRUTH, that has nothing to do with white racism, it is simply relating REALITY! I have come to the realization that most Caucasians know exactly what's going on. When they come to Black forums faking like they are one of us only to support lies and propaganda, I understand they are not interested in the TRUTH. They only want to refute the savage behavior so common in their nature. Poor souls.
I try to read what you write in your post but I can't understand what you're saying because what you say so many times doesn't make any sense.
Peace and hotep,
Frances Cress Welsing quotes socialist writer Neely Fuller Jr. in her dedication of the isis papers. He states
“if you do not understand white supremacy(racism) – what it is, and how it works – everything else that you understand, will only confuse you.”
She finishes her dedication by recommending that all non ‘white’ people worldwide read Neely Fuller Jr. ’s work,
THE UNITED INDEPENDENT COMPENSATORY CODE/SYSTEM/CONCEPT: a textbook/workbook for thought, speech and/or action for victims of racism(white supremacy).
In his work, Fuller discusses (and Welsing refers to)
NINE MAJOR AREAS OF PEOPLE ACTIVITY IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE
They are economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex and war which are social activities. However the racists(white supremacist) dominate non ’white’people in all areas of major activity.
I fail to see how white dominance/control of the 9 major areas of human activity validates the "Cress theory" or invalidates 'white' socialist writers like Bradley or Marx. Accepting for argument's sake that whites control all of these, neither of the explanations presented of why whites control all of these sheds any more light on the subject.
where has 'white' socialist writers like bradley or marx wrote about europeans evolving from africans like welsing. at least there is no doubt that white dominance controls the 9 major areas of human activity. innovative africans like welsing challenge the status quote without war or the destruction of the 9 areas of human activity. what some suggests would lead us to self destruction. like if africans/non'whites' ever received reparations without repairing our european/caucasion/'white' counterparts there would be war.
there should not be war unless we have totally exhausted our options.
My whole purpose of posting was to debunk this theory that Evil and Anti-Life began with the White Man. This is completely a racist mode of thinking. It is absolutely ignorant to believe that a diabolical nature originated with ONE specific people.
This reaction is often one that is generated as a defense mechanism to deal with the guilt of belong to a race that committed the worse atrocities in human history. The reality is that even though chattel slavery has ended, the mindset and oppressive system that facilitated slavery is still very much present. So people especially Whites have to come to terms with their own role and complicity is the present system of false values and privileges and not try to sidestep the injustices by saying that all cultures have evil or....whatever defense mechanism is convienent. It is imperative that people deal with themselves from who they are. So if a person is White, Indian or whatever, they must deal with themselves from the uniqueness of that experience.
Tyehimba
Tyehimba
It is an intellectual and moral cop out to claim that anyone who studies the history of slavery is simply trying to assuage the guilt of their ancestry. The history of enslavement culminates with the European atrocities perpetrated on Africans. But this is only the terrible culmination, not the middle or the beginning. It behooves us to know the entire story from beginning to end to better understand why it was a successful development strategy and what can be done about this shared legacy.
Again there is NO RECORD that hints the Black race committed wholesale massacres and atrocities to animals or human beings BEFORE the invasions of the Caucasian people
THE PEOPLE OF KEMIT WOULD ROUTINELY EXECUTE RUDDY OR RED PEOPLE WHO REMINDED THEM OF SETH.
THE NEANDERTHAL OF EURASIA WAS REPLACED BY CROMAGNON/HOMMO SAPIEN SAPIEN(who origenated in africa)
Ausar's phalus was thrown into the Hapi(nile) river and a catfish ate it...and your point was?...
the body of ausar was torn apart and eventually brought back together with the exclusion of the procreative(or happy) part.
freedomisahapislave