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Oshun_Auset
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« on: March 02, 2005, 04:39:03 PM »

Mojuba Olodumare, mojuba Egungun, mojuba Egun!

Alafia,

The home of what is reveered through the eyes of a Puerto-Rican priest of Sango.

Odabo.
http://www.irunmole.org/gallery.html

Ifa

 
A Baba Bode with Osun Ifa
Opening the
Ifa Grove in Osogbo
 
Ifadoyin leaving the Ifa Grove
after his Itefa in Osogbo
 
Osun Ifa
 
Chief Kayode Faniyi
performing ebo
 
Babalawo Bode
over ebo after Itefa
 
The Ojugbona of Osogbo Land
divining with Ikin Ifa
 
The current Araba of Osogbo Land,
Chief Fagbemi Onidfade, joined by the Agbongbon Awo
 
Ifa drummers drumming as new awos
are presented to the community

Orisa

 
Priestess' from Osogbo, Ede and Oyo
chanting Sango Pipe
 
Young Sango Priests
from Oyo
 
A mount of Sango possesed
by the Orisa
 
Baba Kayode Faniyi with
Priests of Obatala in front of the
Ile Obatala in Idita-Ile Ife
 
The Iya Osun and
Aworo Osun (who is also a well known babalawo) leading the Osun Festival in Osogbo
 
A priest of Oke performing services
at the Oke Shrine
 
A priest of Oya from Ogun State
leading other priest in dances for Oya
 
Chief Adebisi Akanji - an Osun Priest and the Oluwo Ataoja of the Ogboni house (iledi) Ohuntoto, visiting with Candomble preistess' at The Carribean Cultrual Center in New York City
 
Bata Drummers from Oyo
Playing for Sango

Egungun

 
Egungun Dancers
 
Egungun Dancers
 
Egungun Sango Dancer
 
Egungun Dancers

Shrines

 
Ile Ifa in Osogbo, Osun State, Nigeria
 
Entrance to Ile Ifa in Osogbo,
 
Baba Aikulola at the entrance to Ile Ifa in
Oketase Ile Ife
 
Faniyi compound Esu Shrine
 
Iya Osun attending the
Osun Shrine in the Palace
Osogbo, Osun State, Nigeria
 
Fadoyin praying to Osun in the Osun Grove
Osogbo, Osun State, Nigeria
 
Osun Riving running through in the Osun Grove
Osogbo, Osun State, Nigeria
 
Chief Kayode Faniyi at the Igi Nla
Tree Shrine in Iwara Town
 
Oke Shrine in Iwo
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2005, 10:16:39 PM »

Nice pictures.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2005, 07:45:54 AM »

Not to be disrespectful but we us Africans need to modernise our way of life and to blend old with the new. Science canít be ignored we are scientist by blood and nature
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2005, 04:45:56 PM »

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Not to be disrespectful but we us Africans need to modernise our way of life and to blend old with the new. Science canít be ignored we are scientist by blood and nature



Ifa divination is based on the same binary system used by computers. Western seperation of spirituality and science is dangerous, and is one of the many things  at the root of our environmental problems. What do you mean by 'modernizing' anyhow? Do you mean urbanize, westernize, †or what exactly?

Living with nature instead of trying to dominate it to the point of self destruction isn't something to be encouraged if that is what you mean.

BTW, since when haven't practitioners of traditional indigenous religions refused to incorporate the best of the new with the old?

I think you may be ignoring or ignorant of the science behind African spirituality. If you are not, why would you make such a statement?
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« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2005, 05:32:31 AM »

Hotep sister auset



Even if the Europeans are destroying nature, the world wonít die now and just like you said we need to take what we need from the Europeans and blend with ours.
Just spirituality alone wonít create a nation we need Nubian politics and Nubian science and thatís what the deities are there for.


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« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2005, 03:07:00 PM »

Caucasians like to think TRADITIONAL AFRICAN RELIGION against SCIENCE. It's a WHITE SUPREMACY MENTALITY TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO: Not dealing with the health of humans, animals, or plants of indigenous cultures and the world environmental problems.

Jemba has so much love for the WHITE COMMUNITY. Oshun-Auset, think about it...

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We should first show solidarity with each other. We are Africans. We are black. Our first priority is ourselves.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2005, 12:57:57 PM »

The world recycles itself every time we destroy it and we have done that many times, this is not the only race that have harmed themselves and nature, the forces which we call evil have been in existence for a very long time.


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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2005, 01:06:04 PM »

This world has a rule the strongest survive the Europeans took our knowledge and made them selves conquerors in order to accumulate more material and knowledge to take us down all this while we where living in peace and not progressing.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2005, 07:10:16 PM »

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...all this while we where living in peace and not progressing.


Are you serious?

What inertia was preventing our progression Jemba?

I could have sworn that change is the only thing that is constant.

Only the colonialists, and those that believe their lies, want others to believe that we(and all other people they colonized) weren't "progressing".

Pure rubbish IMO.
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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2005, 08:28:36 AM »

Hotep


Like we agreed on one thing we need to take what is good for us from the Europeans and fuse it with our knowledge. Afrikans need what the Europeans have to offer development and science. We canít explain how nature works without science and nature is our way of life. We need their way of life us much as they need ours. They have materialistic way of life with constant development, the Europeans evaluates everything with science even spirituality. We have a very high moral guide because of our way of life and they have a moral crisis.

That is my point of view anyway.    



Black have allot to take from whites and whites have allot to learn from blacks




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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2005, 06:11:06 PM »

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Hotep


Like we agreed on one thing we need to take what is good for us from the Europeans and fuse it with our knowledge. Afrikans need what the Europeans have to offer development and science. We canít explain how nature works without science and nature is our way of life. We need their way of life us much as they need ours. They have materialistic way of life with constant development, the Europeans evaluates everything with science even spirituality. We have a very high moral guide because of our way of life and they have a moral crisis.

That is my point of view anyway. † †



Black have allot to take from whites and whites have allot to learn from blacks







The problem I have with what you are saying is that you are giving scientific credit to Europeans or European culture where it is not deserved or warranted. I said taking the best of the old and thenew. You automatically characterized 'the old' as African,and the 'new' as European. Much of what they know/have developed comes from us...and I'm not just talking about ancient African sciencecfrom KMT ect.. Most technological 'advances' have come from the efforts of various peoples in the 'west', including Africans, not just Europeans...but it is credited to them/their civilization because they are the ones benefitting from such advancesbecause they are the oppressors. This is without even mentioning the fact that all technological advances in the West have been financed off of the sweat and blood of the Black and Brown masses. If we were left undusturbed and unmolested we would have developed also, abeit differently...probably more in tune with natures cycles. But we would have developed, because they are not superior to us, and their culture is not superior to ours. We did not need their incursion to move forward. Our development was interupted.

You have written things like "they did us a favour" and that "we were not progressing". This shows a subconscious beleif that we needed to be colonized/enslaved and it was a "good thing"on your part. Which means you think we are either sub-human(since the natural laws of movement and change must not affect us unlike others) or at least sub-European. That concept is bogus....And hateful.
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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2005, 12:58:16 AM »

A.S.I.A ( All Started In Afrika )
There are creators, then there are innovators. And when I say innovators, I am speaking of those who make changes, alter and modernize not necessarily for the betterment. The Great Innovators actually divide, conquer, and destroy creation. The pyramids still amaze all scientist.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2005, 09:39:37 AM »

Itís the truth that we as a people should be given credit but we are not going to be given any credit from the past. What we did in the past they have managed to better in the present.

The Europeans have been given their chance to rule but they didnít respect the laws and so the star that governs all the stars is going somewhere else.
We have to get organized but under one name with one goal and one leader.



That leader is coming but we donít suppose to wait for anyone
We must pave our own way.

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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2005, 11:37:37 AM »

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Itís the truth that we as a people should be given credit but we are not going to be given any credit from the past. What we did in the past they have managed to better in the present
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What improvements have they made? Look at the economic, spiritual, mental and physical state of the world as a whole and I dare you to make such a comment.
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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2005, 04:12:53 AM »


The Caucasians technology is made from their point of view from their minds or the mind set they have given to others.

Being one with nature is a good thing but nature doesnít tell us not to make guns if you have the knowledge of how to make guns.

Nature doesnít tell us that we have to keep on making ships out of wood; to make everyone bow down to your nation is no joke. You need to be constantly changing and advancing and the Europeans just showed more hunger then the rest.

Nobody likes where their taking the future but who can stop them but the almighty him/her self.

I am not suggesting afrikans copy their mistakes just their positive aspects.



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