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Father X
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« on: November 03, 2007, 06:06:56 AM »

It happened one evening on a humid Wednesday in July
I had just come home from work.
My wife and three young daughters met me at the door they were all trying to tell me about the BIG WEEL INCIDENT at the same time.

I told them to calm down and tell me what happened my wife cut in, she told me that
My little boy who was 4 years old at the time was playing with the little white boy
Who lived down the street they were both taking turns riding my sons big wheel,

When my son unintentionally ran over the little white boys foot and he ran home crying
Well the boys mother came down to our house - her and my wife had words
I was told that her husband was going to come down to my house and do all of us in.

I told everyone to go into the back room and wait there until I tell them to come out
We lived in a mostly white neighborhood and we knew they didn't want me or my
Family there.

I got my 12 gage pump shot gun out of hiding along with a 357 magnum I went into the
Kitchen and fixed a large plate of spaghetti I laid the shotgun in the corner
Sat down to the dinner table in the dinning room and placed the hand gun in my lap
As I began to put the first spoon full of spaghetti in my mouth there was a loud
Knock at the door.

I shouted who is it the voice replied loudly Jim.
I replied come in and in he came standing about 6ft, before I could say anything
He began to shout.

IF YOU CAN’T TEACH THOSE LITTLE NAPPY HEADED CHILDREN OF
YOURS HOW TO ACT RIGHT AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLE
I WILL COME DOWN HERE AND SHOW YOU HOW TO DO THE JOB
MYSELF.

Before I knew it I had turned the table over, the plate of spaghetti went flying in the
Living room and up came the gun I fired just missing his head the shell slammed into
The living room wall leaving a whole the size of a golf ball in the wall and a crater
Outside the house the size of a large dinner plate.

He had moved backwards to fast as I moved around the dinner table he was already
Out the door tearing the screen door from its top hinge I slide down in the spaghetti
Sauce and got up from the floor when I got to the door he was half way home

Yelling for his wife to open the door, people say white men can’t jump
But I know for a fact they can not only jump they can fly too.

After the gun fire and my BAD A…S guest had left 4 police cars showed up.
They stopped to his house first to find out what had happened

Then they walked to my house while one car followed the men on foot
I was seated on the sofa with the hand gun laying by my right side and the
Registration papers for the guns on my left the shotgun leaning on my sofa to
My left.

They knocked on the door I said come in one office said is it safe to come in I replied
Yes.
They stepped in two of them began to shine flash lights around in the living room
And at the overturned table and hole in the wall.

Another said he was told I just tried to shoot someone I said I did
He asked me if I knew the man I had tried to shoot was his brother
I replied I didn't give-a- F….k.

The other two officers escorted him outside and began to talk to him the one that was
Left with me asked if the fight was over I replied yes it is.

My wife and children was standing behind the corner wall peeping.
The officer ask how many shots I had fired and I replied one
He also asked if I was trying to kill him, I replied yes.

He stepped outside and all four officers returned to the mans house
There was an argument between the officer and his brother and the brothers wife
The officer called his brother stupid for entering the home of a mad black man
With a gun.

The mans wife tried to defend her husband but, she was told to shut the f…k up
And the officer accused her of trying to get his brother killed.

My wife had called my mother after hearing the gun fire my mother called my
Brothers soon even before the police was gone from the mans house, my brothers
And friends pulled up to my house three car loads of men.

The police watching 10 mad black men get out of cars with guns they all came inside
The message they had gotten was I had been shot I told them what happened
They returned to their cars without incident and drove off the police did not follow
Them.

This happened in the late 70s my advice to anyone faced with this kind of incident
 If something like this happens to you don’t do what I did.
Take your time and don’t put the hole in the wall.
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empressiternal
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2007, 04:38:58 PM »

I overstand the need to protect your family against anyone who threatens life and limb I know I would fight till the death for my own, but to squeeze the trigger and for the bullet to end up in the kitchen wall could just as easily gone through the wall and killed or maimed the very same family you were trying to protect.And to advocate the aiming straight and killing of another human being is well sad. The world is full of haters of life, people who want segragation , its at times like this I wish Father God had born all a we blind. Instead of blinded by hatred.You showed your children that violence and life taking is the only way to get through to racists, Bullies, and small minded people, Remember you Did invite the nutter into your house, it would have been just as easy to go out side and deal with his case.
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Father X
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 04:45:06 PM »

For starters my family had already been made safe in the back room the bullet went threw the living
room wall remember
and third God was not there to help him fast enough. Angry
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Killuminati33
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2007, 10:39:14 PM »

Can I ask where you lived? Sounds like horrible place to live.

Still what you did was wrong. I understand the right for you to be armed with a firearm in that situation but from the way you described it he was just shouting at you, maybe he had a gun to but did he point it at your face. Why would you try to kill him if he was just shouting at you without taking any aggressive physical action against you? I really find this story stupid, if its even true. Where you young and stupid back then? You could have killed the guy and that would have changed your entire life, if you did you would not be making posts here right now. You should consider yourself lucky that you got some bad aim and he managed to dodge your shot. He probably wasn't even armed himself and you try to kill him? Whats wrong with you? Why not point a gun at his face and tell him to leave in some fancy way?

So tell me how is a man shouting at you a threat to your life and family? You must of felt proud when you fired that shot and you intended to kill him. Actions like this are typical for a unenlightened average guy........I guess you weren't even aware that your life could have been over if you took his life.
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Father X
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2007, 11:42:54 PM »

ARE YOU A CHRISTAIN, BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE ONE. THE AREA I LIVED IN WAS NOT GOOD. BUT WHEN A MAN ENTERS MY HOUSE FOR ANY REASON AND TRIES TO
SHOUT, YELL, DICTATE, OR ANY OTHER FORCEFUL MANNER HE WILL DELT WITH, BY ME.
THE AMERICAN LAW SAYS I CAN SHOOT IN MY HOUSE, BUT I DO NOT AND DID NOT
NEED TO GO BY A BOOK OR LAW. HOW EVER I DO THINK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS

I AM NOT TRYING TO LIVE BY ANOTHER NATIONS RULES ABOUT HOW TO HANDLE MYSELF AS A MAN.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU: IF YOU KNEW I HAD KILLED, RAPED, LYNCHED, BURNED, DECAPATATED, CASTRATED, LIED, STOLEN, AND CAUSED THE WHOLSALE MURDER OF
AND ENTIRE POPULATION OF PEOPLE.


AND THEN TURND AROUND AND GAVE YOU A BOOK ABOUT HOW TO GET ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBOR THAT SAID THOU SHALT NO KILL.

WOULD YOU NOT, BECOME A LITTLE SUSPICIOUS OF THE BOOK AND THE MAN WHO GAVE IT TO YOU.
OR WOULD YOU JUST EXCEPT IT AND BELIEVE IN ITS CONTENT WITHOUT INVESTIGATION
OF ITS HISTORY, AND MINE.
WHAT IF AFTER I GAVE YOU THE BOOK I STILL DID THE SAME THINGS EVERY WHERE I WENT ON THE EARTH EVEN UNTIL THIS DAY.

WOULD YOU NOT QUESTION THE BOOK, A LITTLE BIT, AND IF I WAS ENVOLVED IN THE DEATH OVER 2 HUNDRED MILLION BLACK PEOPLE FROM ANOTHER LAND.

WOULD YOU STILL TRY TO LIVE WITH ME AND BE EXCEPTED BY ME, DRESS LIKE ME,
TALK LIKE ME, DATE ME, MARRY ME, AND TRY TO GO TO OTHER LANDS AND KILL OTHER PEOPLE WITH ME OR FOR ME.

YOU WOULD THINK THE PERSON WHO ALLOWED ME TO DO THOSE THINGS TO HIM
AND OTHER PEOPLE WOULD FINALLY WAKE UP AND STOP BEING STUPID. Huh
 
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Killuminati33
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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2007, 12:06:02 AM »

Im sure you would have regreted it if you did kill him. Tell me was this man specifically in his life time involved in enslaving black people? Torchering them? Oppressing them. Sure he probably said a lot of racist things in his life but talk is talk, he never killed a black person. I think your fed my revenge and thats what will destroy you and many people here because your hunger for revenge will never come and you will never look at other races and people the same as your own. That man was just another white guy controlled by the system with his beliefs told to him and conforming to mainstream white society with the way they act,believe etc....Lucky you missed and thats great  Two Thumbs. Now you don't have a 500 year jail sentence or worst case scenerio on death row. You should be thankful that guy is quick. If this storys true, hes an idiot just like you because he goes to the house unarmed and you try to kill him. The way I see it it's just two guys caught in a petty racial mix up with the white guy enraged cause he thinks your nappy headed black kids are purposely running over his beautiful white children and you defending your home with some over excessive force.

You should only shoot someone if they have a gun or they are attacking you with a life threatening weapon. Im surprised he had the courage to actually go inside your house and say that without any weapons.
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Father X
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2007, 12:36:00 AM »

I WONDER IF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN BAGDAD, VIET NAM, HEROSHAMA, AFRICA, NAGASAKI,
, AUSTRALIA, CUBA, AND SOUTH AMERICA WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT NOT SHOOTING.


AND IF THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE WERE ALIVE WOULD THEY AGREE WITH YOU
ABOUT NOT SHOOTING:
QUEEN NZINGA OF ANGOLA
SHAKA ZULU OF THE ZULU NATION
JERANNAMO
SITTING BULL
HEROHITO OF JAPAN
JUST TO NAME A FEW, THEY ALL HAD SOMTHING IN COMMON THEY WERE INSULTED
BY A PATICULAR TYPE OF PEOPLE
AND THEY ALL RESPONDED WITH WAR.
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empressiternal
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2007, 07:44:44 AM »

FIRSTLY WE CAN NEVER FORGET OUR PAST AND THE PLIGHT OF OUR FOREFATHERS THE LIVES LOST BRUTALLY TAKEN AND ENSLAVED THAT IS WHERE WE RECIEVE OUR EYESIGHT AND DETERMINATION NOT TO LET IT CARRY ON THROUGH GENERATION TO GENERATION.
As I  said in my last post "YOU INVITED HIM IN TO YOUR HOUSE" the same WHITE slavemaster mindset that you hate so much is the same mindset you have therefore it makes your argument "of taking time and  aiming straight" as unforgivable as any tyrant BLACK WHITE PINK YELLOW OR BROWN

Since when did some one having the ability to know right from wrong make them "christain"  Huh Undecided Afro Afro
Oh and you for got N.Ireland or didnt you know that they were slaves and sold for a lot less than African Slaves and to this day still enslaved to Britain oh but I guess they dont count their skin is a little too white it must be what they deserve. Evil and brutality are wrong on all counts no matter who you are or what colour your skin,
Raspect and Inity
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Killuminati33
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2007, 03:01:21 PM »

What a joke, you say that Irish are slaves to this day in Britain? Im almost half Irish, I have family in Northern Ireland and there not slaves at all. They used to be slaves because Ireland used to be a very poor country therefor you can have some cheap slave labor. You say that there slaves to this day? There isn't even much religious tension in Nothern Ireland anymore. The reason why the English hated the Irish so much was simply because they wanted independence and they kept the Roman Catholic Religion instead of conforming to a Protestant religion.

I don't care what the white man may have did in japan..but that atom bomb was to much anyway they should have thought twice before they attacked America. Japan itself used to be a Colonial power also it doesn't matter if the white man insults them, they are just as guilty.
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« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2007, 03:57:06 PM »

With respect look into your family history go back to the 16th and 17th centuary and you will see what I say is the truth they were shipped out on the slave ships and because they  did not have the same physical strength as the african slaves were sold for less. As for tensions eased up again I would check your source it was only a few weeks ago that a 15 year old boy was battered to death by more than 6 men with bats and sticks. And how many families have had to move because of recent fire bomb attacks due to religion check out the whole story my friend.Are they still not being forced to speak english as their first language as their own gaelic is classed as a dead language. If they are free why does the british army still occupy the land.Dont believe hearsay seriously dig a little deeper. No matter what side your family is on things may be a little better but far from where the world believes it to be.
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2007, 01:52:47 AM »

Ireland is free..these things go on in Nothern Ireland. Yes I know the Irish used to be slaves, I guess they where just that poor back then so it was cheap labor for the English. Ive never heard of any other European being used as slaves. Anyway the conflict with Ireland is a religious conflict and is nothing to do with race so Im not really concerned with it. Im not a Christian and my beliefs and religion is closest to Agnostic and Occult Knowledge, I believe what I think is closest to the truth without the influence of any religious tradition or being told what I should believe. I could really care less if Ireland was Catholic or Protestant. I know some parts of Nothern Ireland want to remain apart of Britian just like Scotland does. So my relatives where probably slaves to. As for there slaves being cheaper this is obvious, the Irish where not a tribal society there for where not as physically fit as African slaves where. They didn't have to hunt for food everyday or constantly go to far places to find water. I wish the Irish did convert to the Protestant religion and joined Britain, personally I think the Protestantism is better than The Catholics. Im not speaking about the religion itself but the way the Catholic Church is ran since they had significant control in Catholic country's back then.

The British army only occupies land in Northern Ireland since it is part of Britain and many people there (not all) want to be part of Britain. I still know for a fact that violence there has decreased a lot over the years, I hardly see things about Belfast in the news anymore and with the rise of secularism religious influence in western society has been decreasing fast. Most people don't even affiliate themselves with religion as much even in Europe. My family where Irish protestants, maybe they converted or did not want to be Catholic anymore I don't really know nor do I care for religion. The hole thing seems pointless to me....but many people love there religion and hate the Catholic Church. With Spain who had invaded Ireland Catholic influence was probably prevalent by that time since they bring the Inquisition with them everywhere they go. The Spanish Armada Blockaded Ireland on both coasts.
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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2007, 10:20:05 AM »

WITH RASPECT
When i talk about them in slavery I am not talking about  the plantation of Ulster " the war of the roses" They were not taken to england as slaves but around the world on the slave ships side by side with the african slaves to every continent fact. The war in Ireland did not start over catholicism or protestants but the fact that that the English Invaded the land threw the Irish famers and families out of their houses and off their land to make way for the english plantation. They were starved beaten and brutalised and killed by the english. they had to work their own land for their new english masters and give them all the proceeds of their labour. They were NOT permitted to use their own Language GAELIC but forced through brutality starvation and death to speak the english Language so with raspect look into the facts before you begin to quote about religion being the reason for the troubles in Ireland and for free thats a matter of opinion
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« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2007, 04:08:22 PM »

The following extract gives an idea of the colossal scale of the slave trade from Ireland. No doubt this post will be met by the usual chorus of deniers wishing we could keep quite about this - but lets just ignore them. I think some remembrance should be made of these unfortunate people. The event could be linked with the fight against slavery in the world today. Does anyone have suggestions?

The reign of Elizabeth I, English privateers captured 300 African Negroes, sold them as slaves, and initiated the English slave trade. Slavery was, of course, an old established commerce dating back into earliest history. Julius Caesar brought over a million slaves from defeated armies back to Rome. By the 16th century, the Arabs were the most active, generally capturing native peoples, not just Africans, marching them to a seaport and selling them to ship owners. Dutch, Portuguese and Spanish ships were originally the most active, supplying slaves to the Spanish colonies in America. It was not a big business in the beginning, but a very profitable one, and ship owners were primarily interested only in profits. The morality of selling human beings was never a factor to them.

After the Battle of Kinsale at the beginning of the 17th century, the English were faced with a problem of some 30,000 military prisoners, which they solved by creating an official policy of banishment. Other Irish leaders had voluntarily exiled to the continent, in fact, the Battle of Kinsale marked the beginning of the so-called “Wild Geese”, those Irish banished from their homeland. Banishment, however, did not solve the problem entirely, so James II encouraged selling the Irish as slaves to planters and settlers in the New World colonies. The first Irish slaves were sold to a settlement on the Amazon River In South America in 1612. It would probably be more accurate to say that the first “recorded” sale of Irish slaves was in 1612, because the English, who were noted for their meticulous record keeping, simply did not keep track of things Irish, whether it be goods or people, unless such was being shipped to England. The disappearance of a few hundred or a few thousand Irish was not a cause for alarm, but rather for rejoicing. Who cared what their names were anyway, they were gone.

Almost as soon as settlers landed in America, English privateers showed up with a good load of slaves to sell. The first load of African slaves brought to Virginia arrived at Jamestown in 1619. English shippers, with royal encouragement, partnered with the Dutch to try and corner the slave market to the exclusion of the Spanish and Portuguese. The demand was greatest in the Spanish occupied areas of Central and South America, but the settlement of North America moved steadily ahead, and the demand for slave labour grew.

The Proclamation of 1625 ordered that Irish political prisoners be transported overseas and sold as laborers to English planters, who were settling the islands of the West Indies, officially establishing a policy that was to continue for two centuries. In 1629 a large group of Irish men and women were sent to Guiana, and by 1632, Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat in the West Indies. By 1637 a census showed that 69% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves, which records show was a cause of concern to the English planters. But there were not enough political prisoners to supply the demand, so every petty infraction carried a sentence of transporting, and slaver gangs combed the country sides to kidnap enough people to fill out their quotas.

Although African Negroes were better suited to work in the semi-tropical climates of the Caribbean, they had to be purchased, while the Irish were free for the catching, so to speak. It is not surprising that Ireland became the biggest source of livestock for the English slave trade.

Extract taking from Rememberance of the Irish Slaves
Love and Raspect
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Killuminati33
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2007, 07:56:35 PM »

Even if war in Ireland did not start with Religion, the english went there because as I said it was for Cheap slave labor. Ireland was very poor back then and not converting to Protestantism and wanting to be independent probably made things worse.

I bet the majority 70-80% of slaves taken back to Rome where all White slaves. Slavery only starts when a society or race is to weak to defend itself, lives in primitive tribes. After they are taken advantage of the racism starts from there. If there society is strong there is much less racism and they hold more respect in the world because of the power and influence they have. If blacks had of progressed like the rest of the world you people would have never been slaves since it is very hard to enslave a primitive society.

The worst thing that would have happened was war with Europeon nations that black would have probably lost ending it with some peace treaty or terms of surrender. There would of been no slavery because if your people where technologically advanced like Europeons in Central and Southern Africa, actually had cities in instead of Hutts then not one of you would have been slaves. This is because you would have had the technology,intelligence and the means to defend yourself.

Since my last paragraph was all a fantasy...you people where ensalved. You wern't slaves because you are black and everyone hates black people. Blacks became slaves because there society was tottally backwards the technological level you people where at was like Barbarian tribes more than 500 years before the Colonial Era. So it began, and the strong took advantage of the weak this is why you became slaves. From that point on the racism started because of your status in society. It was not the white mans fault that black people where not as advanced as them or the rest of the world. Remember that in ancient times most advanced black civilizations where all in North Africa, the white man hardly set foot or went in huge armies to central and southern africa. So the black people who lived in those area had plenty of time to build an advanced civilization but...they didn't. They remained in the primitive tribal culture until Colonial times when they where enslaved and eventually modernized by Europeans. Technological advancement and development in Africa only came when Europeans went to Africa to enslave and colonize. This is why I always dismiss that the black man is superior. They never had advanced Civilizations anywhere else but North Africa. But I do not maintain that they are inferior since they did have advanced Civilizations in North Africa comparable to any Caucasian Civilization. This is why I think the development of the early modern world did not come because white people stoll crap from Egypt. It primarily came from the ancient Civilizations of the Middle East and Sumeria who came before any black civilization. The people of Sumeria where semitic and where mostly mixed with Mongrels,Negroid and Caucasians. Many ancient knowledge came from these Civilizations in the middle east. Every single Civilization in the middle east eventually came under Caucasian control with the Indo-Aryan Migrations. Just look at the Persian Empire. Persians themselves are related to Europeans and are Caucasian they originated from the caucus mountains. There Civilizations started in Iran at about the same time as Egypt. This is why I laugh when I hear idiot say white people have no Culture and no Ancient Civilization before Greece or Rome. They always forget Iran and Phoenicia which started with Caucasian people. Some Ancient Civilizations may have started with Caucasians also in the Middle East. Not to mention all the Civilizations taken over by Caucasians. Sumeria,Indus Valley,India etc....Much of the Scientific,Philosophical and other Ancient knowledge primarily came from these regions. It is fact that secret society's study knowledge that have mostly come from these regions. Not all the crap stollen from Africa. Oh and what about the Kurds of Iraq? Didn't they have some ancient Civilization? What about the Ancient Kazers of Kazakhstan? The notion that white people have no Ancient origins is only false and was only presented to strengthen these black supremacy lies. Oh ya what about the North African Caucasians of Africa? The Berber people?
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2007, 01:14:06 PM »

Huh Explain "you people" I havent stated any thing about I birth origin or ancestry  SLAVERY past /present whether physical/mental MATTERS to InI, Racisim Matters to InI Hating killing down pressure Matters to InI .
And until we as a nation  find positive solutions to things that really matter we are all SLAVES. Too many people are so caught up in "their hard done by" thoughts with out thought or feelings to find  positive conclusions to benifit our selves each other our communities our nation, we will always be faced with the SAME PROBLEMS. It is on us as a Nation not to let Istory repeat it self or  manifest in another form but to erradicate it finally completely and Iternally.
As for the Ireland reasoning what right does any country have to take over the human rights of another, just because " you were weaker" who is you Huh?? this is the point InI is trying to make you continue to judge people on what you THINK their colour is And what you THINK their heritage is when you dont have the full over standing. InI a real real real AFRICAN WITH OUT APOLOGY Iam a HUMAN being with no superiority/inferiority to another. InI know I past that is why InI fulljoy my present and I future. INI believe in equal RIGHTS and JUSTICE for all. InI a soulJah fi life WITHOUT APOLOGY and will continue the battle against ALL inciters of HATRED, DOWNPRESSION, RACISIM AND ATTROCITIES OF ANY NATURE TO ANOTHER LIVING PERSON. RasTafari A mi guide and shield  Without apology .More Life, More Fyah fi bun on wickedness and corruption mis leaders false teachers  ....JAH RAAAASTAFARI & I & ALL I
Peace and Love
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